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[00:45:42] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[01:15:53] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[03:32:10] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[04:02:22] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[04:50:13] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[05:20:24] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[06:17:07] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[07:23:41] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[13:19:01] foob: всем привет, народ
[13:20:25] foob: народ, вопрос более теоретический чем практический и к питону имеет косвенное отношение. но так как ту много толковых людей, более того может кто-то имеет за плечами практический опыт, надеюсь услышать советов годных или хотябы чуть чехлы собрать поможете все-таки
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[13:23:25] foob: как правильно делать онлайн игры мультиплеерные. на сервере полностью логику их реализовывать? например торнадо и вебсокеты
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[13:24:31] fuzzy: какую-то логику можно на клиента, чтобы отзывчивость была лучше
[13:24:37] fuzzy: но на сервере всё должно проверяться независимо
[13:24:38] foob: ну вот за этим я и пришел
[13:24:48] foob: отзывчивость, не мог слово подобрать
[13:25:07] foob: выходит надо делать как бы два движка, чтоб если связь тупанула все не зависало мертвым грузом
[13:25:15] foob: и синхронизировалось при ее восстановлении
[13:25:39] foob: просто когда вся логика например на сервере а на клиенте только рисовалка это как бы работы меньше и звучит заманчиво
[13:25:51] foob: но чую я что с таким подходом она кроме локахоста будет не играбельна
[13:26:16] foob: но с другой стороны это в 4 раза больше работы, два движка еще и синхронизация
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[15:27:33] singularity: foob: сделай с одним на сервере, а потом посмотри что надо оптимизировать
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[19:48:33] singularity: https://history.google.com/history/lookup?hl=ru
[19:49:12] singularity: у кого какие популярные сайты по статистике ? https://history.google.com/history/lookup?hl=ru
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[19:50:24] singularity: у меня http://goo.gl/b7aIAP
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[19:52:22] upyachka: хлопцы, а какой регуляркой лучше парсить значения вида "2 сен 2013 в 16:22" ?
[19:52:31] fuzzy: никакой
[19:52:40] fuzzy: ну..
[19:54:33] fuzzy: почему регулярка?
[19:54:46] upyachka: потому что оно в html ;)
[19:55:15] upyachka: и потому что хз как еще можно
[19:55:21] upyachka: у меня там всё регулярки парсят как бы
[19:55:34] fuzzy: формат всегда одинаковый?
[19:55:42] fuzzy: !pydoc time.strfpime
[19:55:51] fuzzy: !pydoc datetime.strfpime
[19:56:07] fuzzy: !pydoc time.strptime
[19:56:32] upyachka: насчет одинаковости всегда я не уверен конечно
[19:56:40] fuzzy: singularity:
[19:56:52] fuzzy: Популярные сайты
1. en.wikipedia.org <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNESo-lZ5jl_SaLiqyNS_FXuWMeFPw>
2. stackoverflow.com <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://stackoverflow.com&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNElCtyMJwtIohfKebHjyblwu0Ylvw>
3. maps.google.com <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://maps.google.com&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNFpMinLxsCBl1pSjwvAw_S8Wvib1A>
4. dev.mysql.com <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://dev.mysql.com&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNF1WmkPumkk84gIfs3S35HrYN790A>
5. docs.python.org <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://docs.python.org&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNGtXBFH97DXjmsbhIvK0Dobxc0ukQ>
[19:57:20] singularity: познавательно
[19:58:57] upyachka: fuzzy: а зачем strptime ? мне из кучки html-тэгов, которые не всегда одинаковые, нужно выудить эта дату :)
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[19:59:23] fuzzy: ну ок. тогда пиши регексп
[19:59:43] upyachka: единственное, что их объеденяет - находятся в одно <div class="yohoho"> ))
[19:59:59] upyachka: :))
[20:00:18] singularity: upyachka: я не умею re и сделал бы руками.
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[21:42:34] upyachka: я изначально вообще beutifulsoup прикрутил, н ос ним очень медленно :)
[21:43:12] Tony: у тебя html такой здоровый?
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[22:00:37] singularity: upyachka: чем граб плох ?
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[22:44:23] upyachka: граб плох тем, что его в .ехе не собрать
[22:44:25] upyachka: а так он хорош
[22:44:40] upyachka: Tony: просто много искать надо :)
[22:45:15] Tony: тогда мож проблема не в bs?
[22:46:25] gigimon: upyachka: малая скорость, поставь lxml :)
[22:48:27] upyachka: меня устраивает регулярка, я просто их недостаточно хорошо разумею :)
[22:50:33] gigimon: парсить html регулярками...
[22:50:45] gigimon: вырастишь, поумнеешь
[22:51:52] upyachka: кого выращу? )
[22:52:29] upyachka: зачем мне что-то еще, чтоб пару строк найти в хтмл?
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