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[01:16:13] py_two: fuzzy: у нас тут случайно на cjr нет какой-то комнаты с верстальщиками ?:)
[01:16:29] py_two: ну блин, у меня такое чувство, что с версткой(бутстрап) надо разобраться до конца
[01:17:06] fuzzy: я на совсем понимаю, как "разобраться с вёрсткой до конца" и "бутстрап" могут быть в одном предложении
[01:17:32] λ: fuzzy: шо то фигня выше
[01:17:36] fuzzy: бутстрап - это для ленивых бекенд-программистов, которым лень разбираться с вёрсткой
[01:17:47] fuzzy: λ: ну оно по 10 строк выдаёт
[01:18:42] py_two: fuzzy: ну не совсем лень. Бутстрап - это сказочная фигня, где не надо париться с тем, как оно будет отображаться в разных браузерах
[01:19:37] fuzzy: py_two: ты сколько с ним разбираешься уже?
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[01:21:54] py_two: fuzzy: да я так. Я не с нуля. Взял тему, поудалял шлак, немного подверстал - вроде получается. А теперь хочу с нуля, чтобы было ясно что да как и почему
[01:23:48] orhideous: py_two: CMS допиливаешь? Или свое что-то?
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[01:43:03] opka: gigimon: да, popen зюзаю :)
[01:43:24] opka: а удалять питоном зачем, файл очень, ну очень большой :)
[01:43:42] gigimon: ну я хз
[01:44:08] fuzzy: удалять строки с начала файла?
[01:46:55] opka: ага. я читаю первые 500 строк, потом удаляю их, потом снова открываю файл - читаю, потому удаляю :))
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[01:50:02] λ: opka: а почему не rm ?
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[01:50:56] λ: я овладел pdb!
[01:51:29] λ: /me супер герой!
[01:51:52] λ: /me скинул накидку и пошел и пить чай. Заслужил
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[01:54:07] orhideous: pdb? Хм.
[01:54:29] orhideous: /me избалован отладчиком pydevd в Eclipse
[01:57:24] opka: fuzzy:
[01:58:38] λ: opka: так почему не rm ?
[02:03:59] fuzzy: opka: при каждом удалении же файл переписывается заново?
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[02:38:43] opka: fuzzy: да
[02:39:36] opka: он не удаляется. вывод от tail file.txt сохраняется во временный файл tmp.tmp, а потом tmp.tmp переименовывется в file.txt :))
[02:43:57] opka: и критерий: файлы очень большие, нужно побыстрее. Личн оя быстрее стандартных лиуксовых тулз не придумал :)
[02:44:22] fuzzy: а как насчёт разбивать на файлы поменьше?
[02:44:36] fuzzy: и не переписывать файл каждый раз, а, например, хранить указатель на позицию внутри файла
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[02:46:44] opka: так проще (на оба вопроса) :)
[02:48:12] opka: нет необходимости ничего хранить, а чтоб бегат ьпо файлу его сперва куда-то загрузить бы
[02:48:38] opka: в общем я спать хочу :) спок всем :)
[02:48:56] opka: кстати впервые вижу здесь так мало людей o_O
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[04:09:47] λ: opka: все за работой
[04:18:54] λ: это я всех разогнал
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[04:24:19] λ: Идите- идите! я с пони останусь
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[05:50:15] λ: а можно редакировать css как в браузере ? точнне я и хочу в браузере радактировать, только что бы изменения в файл сохранялись
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[06:50:21] λ: и сколько часов?
[06:53:18] xryun: почти 9
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[12:01:46] gigimon: бр
[12:01:58] gigimon: λ: на счет css можно
[12:02:19] λ: как ?
[12:02:26] λ: gigimon: ^
[12:02:34] gigimon: поищи на хабре, недавно чуваки, пишущие zen coding (который переименовался) запилили такую штуку для хрома и саблайма
[12:02:54] λ: live style ? там наоборот
[12:03:28] gigimon: почему наоборот?
[12:03:41] gigimon: судя по видео, там спокойно меняешь в хроме и в саблайме оно тоже меняется
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[12:04:22] gigimon: посмотрел еще раз видео
[12:04:30] gigimon: меняют в хроме, в редакторе тоже меняется
[12:04:36] λ: да ? Я видео не смотрел. Прийедтся ствавить долбаный го-ланг
[12:04:47] gigimon: http://habrahabr.ru/post/189748/
[12:04:49] gigimon: вот, посмотри
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[12:05:31] λ: таки да. Круто!
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[12:09:55] λ: хотите задания ?
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[12:10:22] λ: Но сначала хотел один тестовый вопрос задать: сможете объяснить, что делает вот этот код:http://www.grindin.ru/m/share/turbo.py.txt ?
[12:10:45] λ: это на фрилансе такие задания дают для проверки типа
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[12:17:28] λ: slav0nic: http://python.su/forum/topic/22309/?page=1#post-114990 походу сильно достают)
[12:18:15] slav0nic: да вроде ж удалял вчера
[12:18:27] slav0nic: всё леньки сайт доделать, точнее некогда
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[12:19:29] λ: http://python.su/job/2013/2/2/freelance-zakazyi-na-parsing-dannyih/ живая вроде
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[12:22:37] slav0nic: в списке её нет
[12:24:24] λ: http://jsfiddle.net/MafjT/ вот есть код. Как сделать рамку в пиксель вокруг круга ?
[12:25:03] λ: border: 2px solid #666;
[12:25:11] λ: вот это я молодец
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[13:33:51] opka: кто разбирался с smtplib.SMTP? почему там таймаут не работает?
[13:34:05] opka: smtplib.SMTP("ya.ru", timeout=5) и висиииииит
[13:34:18] opka: socket.setdefaulttimeout не помогает
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[13:37:41] opka: или это у яндекса такая фишка?
[13:39:13] opka: если gethostbyname сделать то работает
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[15:24:19] fuzzy: opka: а на чём висит?
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[15:27:51] opka: smtplib.SMTP("ya.ru", timeout=5) и висиииииит
[15:28:03] opka: fuzzy: smtplib.SMTP("ya.ru", timeout=5) и висиииииит
[15:28:21] fuzzy: стектрейс есть?
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[15:28:52] opka: оно висит минуты 3, а потом отваливается по socket.timeout :)
[15:28:59] opka: ща покажу
[15:29:41] opka: хотя толку
[15:29:51] opka: сделай telnet ya.ru 25
[15:30:25] opka: питон невиунуват!
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[15:48:37] gigimon: opka: а зачем ты делаешь на ya.ru?
[15:48:39] opka: fuzzy: http://dumpz.org/670185/
[15:48:46] gigimon: если у них смтп на другом домене?
[15:48:58] opka: я для теста делаю
[15:49:32] opka: потому что другие серваки refuse делают сразу
[15:49:48] gigimon: smtp.yandex.ru 25 ок работает
[15:50:37] opka: это понятно, что рабоатет
[15:50:50] opka: почему он долго тупит если просто у ya.ru интересно было :)
[15:51:25] gigimon: хз
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[15:55:37] fuzzy: The optional timeout parameter specifies a timeout in seconds for blocking operations like the connection attempt (if not specified, the global default timeout setting will be used).
[15:55:40] fuzzy: баг может...
[15:57:28] fuzzy: PORT STATE SERVICE
25/tcp filtered smtp
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[20:54:13] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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