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[00:33:45] py_two: fuzzy: >есть куча мест, где про аяксы не слышали и джаваскриптов нет
это было бы неплохо
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[00:45:31] fuzzy: http://jobs.dou.ua/companies/opennode/vacancies/8302/ нет джаваскрипта и аякса
[00:47:37] fuzzy: ну и вообще ты искал работу? http://jobs.dou.ua/vacancies/?search=Python
[00:47:47] fuzzy: там половина не веб
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[13:50:35] fuzzy: ребрендинг
[13:55:47] py_two: кстати в лучшую сторону
[13:56:16] singularity: py_two: почему ? какая разница?
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[14:27:03] singularity: http://rghost.ru/48863954/image.png а как это перевести ? там где голубое
[14:27:36] gigimon: насколько я помню, только хачить админку
[14:28:21] singularity: gigimon: линк можно ?
[14:28:53] singularity: или хоть как оно называется? ну что бы я мог погуглить
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[14:30:05] gigimon: чтоб я помнил)
[14:31:02] gigimon: http://it-profity.ru/russkie-imena-prilozheniy-i-breadcrumbs-v-adminke-django/
[14:31:10] gigimon: поидее оно breadcumbs зовется
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[19:37:12] py_two: теперь я понимаю, почему надо делать ширину строки 79 символов и 73 - документации
[19:38:05] py_two: fuzzy: а что используют сотрудники гугл в качестве WM ? Я понимаю, что используют разное, но большинство сидит на классике или на тайле ?
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[19:39:55] fuzzy: exe-dealer: а тот код, что в ссылке, разве работает?
[19:40:14] fuzzy: py_two: не знаю, гном наверно. есть и кто тайловые
[19:40:21] fuzzy: по умолчанию в линуксе гном
[19:42:36] exe-dealer: работает, этот класс используется как базовый для именованых сущностей
[19:45:56] fuzzy: ну ты можешь переопределить __new__
[19:46:12] fuzzy: ему передаётся словарь аттрибутов, объявленых. можешь его переписать
[19:46:35] fuzzy: ну только э.. колонки name_ru, name_en - это движение в плохом направлении
[19:47:19] fuzzy: фанаты 3NF подсказывают, что надо отдельную таблицу для переводов
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[20:08:10] exe-dealer: >ну ты можешь переопределить __new__
он вроде как вызывается при создании экземпляра, а для sqlalchemy свойтва должны быть доступны из самого определения класса

>ну только э.. колонки name_ru, name_en - это движение в плохом направлении
я очень долго выбирал способ хранения переводов, пробовал одельные таблицы, xml, но последний вариант самый подходящий потому что не нарушает нормализацию и не заставляет join-ить таблицы.
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[20:20:31] fuzzy: exe-dealer: почему они должны быть доступны из определения класса?
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[20:21:03] exe-dealer: мне так показалось
[20:21:14] fuzzy: это вряд ли
[20:21:30] fuzzy: скорее там вся магия и так делается в __new__
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[20:24:29] exe-dealer: не, не мапяться. когда вызываю .metadata.create_all(engine) то колонки не создаются
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[20:33:08] exe-dealer: вообщем получается что это невозможно потому что ссылка на объявляемый класс недоступна внутри объявления потому что класс еще не создан
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[20:50:28] fuzzy: ты что-то делаешь не так
[20:50:52] fuzzy: покажи код
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[20:57:18] singularity: я вот хочу сделать миксин который вставляет дополнительный код в каждое поле html-формы. В зависимости от типа поля разный код
[20:57:56] singularity: как мне с валидатора выдрать регулярку которой он проверяет url ?
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[20:59:48] exe-dealer: http://pastebin.com/A8MrKjtK
[21:01:54] exe-dealer: new никогда не вызывается
[21:07:54] fuzzy: ты его не правиьно используешь
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[21:10:09] exe-dealer: а, return забыл
[21:10:19] exe-dealer: но он все ранво не вызывется
[21:10:34] exe-dealer: *не вызывается
[21:12:22] fuzzy: http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2011/08/14/python-metaclasses-by-example/
[21:13:31] fuzzy: надо __new__ переопределить в метаклассе
[21:13:44] fuzzy: тогда ты сможешь управлять тем, какие у тебя поля в классе объявляются
[21:15:36] exe-dealer: так метакласс было бы смысл городить если бы он какието параметры имел
[21:15:52] exe-dealer: а мне в любом случае надо одни и те же колонки
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[21:47:35] fuzzy: параметры - языки
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