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[00:03:54] opka: юзай viber или mac os
[00:04:00] opka: и не обновляйся
[00:04:02] opka: никогда
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[00:04:59] λ: opka: спасибо кэп. Но если они называют это стабильным релизом почему все так плохо ?
[00:06:10] slav0nic: pulse-audio:i386 небось не стоит
[00:06:11] λ: я ж обновлясь только когда их хреновина попросит
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E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[00:08:58] λ: slav0nic: а что у тебя за дистр. ?
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[00:10:30] λ: а нет программы что-бы слушать свой голос ?
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[09:01:16] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[09:19:45] xryun: >>> from random import randrange
>>> randrange(10)
Будет ли когда нибудь 10 в выдаче?Или она исключена из нее?
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[09:52:47] emese: >>> print [random.randrange(1) for _ in xrange(100)]
[0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0]
[09:52:53] emese: мне кажется, что исключена
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[14:19:04] aries.ua: народ, а есть тут кто, кто пишет на торнадо?
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[14:21:29] λ: aries.ua: какие у тебя масштабы ?
[14:21:44] λ: я мб напишу что-то
[14:22:44] gigimon: я немного юзаю торнаду
[14:23:08] aries.ua: не, больше интересует как правильно структурировать проект на нем. Т.е я применил подход, как обычно делаю во фласке. Но возникла проблема с импортированием модулей. Те примеры, что видел в сети основываются на один файл. Что уже не комильфо.
[14:24:28] gigimon: я каждый хандлер сую в свой модуь
[14:24:32] gigimon: если общие, то в common
[14:24:41] gigimon: общие = общие функции или родители
[14:24:44] gigimon: миксины
[14:24:48] aries.ua: я сделал так. Создал директорию
app/__init__.py
В файле __init__.py
описал нужные апликации и импорты.
Дальше создал папку mods
ней модули.
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[14:25:54] aries.ua: теперь когда импортирую в app/__init__.py хендлеры для роутинга, то при импорте в хендлере роута app
ни одних настроек нет
[14:26:13] aries.ua: т.е app/__init__.py
отрабатывает в самом конце
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[14:26:37] aries.ua: отсюда вывод - я возможно не правильно структурирую проект
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[14:28:07] aries.ua: вот хотелось бы узнать, как народ структурирует проект и пишет модули :)
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[16:53:51] opka: товарищи, прошу помощи :)
[16:53:55] opka: Есть папка проекта proj, в ней есть файл proj.py (в котором есть список lst = [1,2,3]).
В папке proj есть папка use_list, в которой есть файл use.py, который должен использовать lst и файла proj.py.
__init__.py есть везде.
Делал sys.path.append, пишет 'lst' is not defined. Скажите, как сделать?
[16:54:43] opka: суть в том, что в файле proj.py я обхявил несколько переменных, и хочу получать их значения из любого файла в проекте
[16:56:22] opka: и еще прошу учесть, что импортировать надо из папки выше, типа from ..proj impot *
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[16:57:42] opka: сделал через опу :)
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[17:06:06] opka: fuzzy:
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[17:08:06] fuzzy: твой код должен лежать в пакете
[17:08:22] fuzzy: то есть должен быть какой-то верхний каталог, который называется как твой пакет
[17:08:35] λ: from ..proj impot *
а так что уже нельзя ?
[17:08:40] fuzzy: и вот каталог, в котором (внутри) лежит твой пакет ты должен добавить в PYTHONPATH
[17:08:43] fuzzy: ну можно
[17:08:46] fuzzy: но не кошерно
[17:08:57] fuzzy: кошерно - абсолютными путями
[17:10:29] opka: лямбда: мне тогда питон ругается, что у меня не pkg
[17:10:49] opka: блин, решил один отказаться от ini файла и всё кинут ьв скрипт :)
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[17:11:20] λ: opka: установи себе tree
[17:11:59] opka: а потом вырастить сына?
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[17:13:25] λ: opka: по логике вещей ты должен сына сам написать :-D
[17:13:38] opka: а дом?
[17:13:52] opka: или просто сделать build?
[17:13:59] λ: собрать из исходников
[17:14:01] opka: build дом
[17:14:04] opka: да
[17:14:38] opka: :)
[17:15:13] λ: зачем перегонять djvu в pdf ? идиотизм
[17:16:33] opka: я перегонял, когда у меня джву на мае ниодин просмоторщик не сумел отобразить нормально
[17:16:52] λ: мае ?
[17:17:52] opka: fuzzy: я кстати хз что такое пакеты и как с ними жить
[17:18:25] λ: !g python packeges
[17:18:33] fuzzy: пакет - это каталог с файлом __init__.py
[17:18:46] fuzzy: !g python modules packages
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[17:20:00] opka: я сделал в файле lst.py
sys.path.append(os.path.abspath(os.path.dirname(__file__) + '/../..'))
from proj.proj import lst
[17:20:26] opka: но беда в том, что называться ведь может и не proj папка, а как-то иначе (project например)
[17:21:28] λ: а если бы было в файле рядом тоже была бы такая проблема
[17:21:52] λ: а вдруг переименуит models в database_clases
[17:24:15] opka: os.sys.path.insert(0, os.path.dirname(os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(__file__))))
[17:24:17] opka: помогло
[17:24:30] opka: потом просто from proj import lst
[17:24:32] opka: уа
[17:24:33] opka: ура
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[17:43:40] fuzzy: :(
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[17:47:26] opka: fuzzy: не одобряет
[17:47:49] opka: а как вообще нормальные люди поступают, когда надо дергать значения переменной из другого файла?
[17:48:07] fuzzy: часто это признак дурного дизайна
[17:48:15] fuzzy: кроме случаев, когда это, например, конфигурация
[17:48:30] fuzzy: тогда надо, чтобы этот другой файл был импортируемым по абсолютному пути
[17:48:34] fuzzy: то есть он лежит в пакете
[17:48:40] fuzzy: а пакет - у тебя в PYTHONPATH
[17:49:23] opka: у меня там настройки, да
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[18:54:10] gentoo@conference.jabber.ru: интересно, по какой причине эта фигня может не работать ? fetchmail -c 2> /dev/null | sed 's/(//' | awk '{print $2}'
[18:54:31] gentoo@conference.jabber.ru: вот
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[18:55:04] remo: без sed awk выводит $1 $2 $3 строки
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[18:59:50] fuzzy: а с sed?
[19:00:35] remo: fuzzy: а с sed висит и ничего не показывает и не делает
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[19:01:48] remo: fuzzy: хотя если оставить sed и убрать awk - выдает строку с заменой скобки
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[19:04:43] fuzzy: /tmp$ echo '(a b c' > /tmp/q
/tmp$ cat /tmp/q | sed 's/(//' | awk '{print $2}'
b
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[20:06:20] remo: fuzzy: незнаю почему, но не получилось. Реально работает через этот "скрипт" http://bpaste.net/show/141696/
[20:07:10] fuzzy: работает? хорошо.
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[20:41:42] opka: скажите, а почему beautifulsoup
title = t.find('a', attrs={"class": compile(r".*normalgrey.*font12px.*")}) --- вот так не находит,
<a class="normalgrey font12px plain bold" href="/">TEXT</a>
[20:41:54] opka: t.find('a', attrs={"class": compile(r".*normalgrey.*")})
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[20:42:07] opka: а вот так находит
[20:43:17] remo: fuzzy: даже вот так: http://bpaste.net/show/141707/
[20:44:33] fuzzy: opka: может потому что там какой-то список стилей?
[20:46:34] opka: где именно?
[20:46:49] opka: в ранних версиях bs находил
[20:46:58] opka: а сейчас пробую четверку, и не находит по регулярке
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[21:32:44] λ: request.is_secure = lambda: True
[21:32:49] λ: зачем так делать ?
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[21:34:06] opka: есть скипт, который читает хеши файлов и пишет их в файл hash.txt. Далее, если хеш фаайла уже есть в хеш.тхт, то файл пропускаем. Как лучше организовать такое, чтоб файл хеш.тхт был где-то вовоне, его скачивать, делать дело и заливать обратно?
[21:34:18] opka: что-то типа commit & push для гитхаба
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[21:43:01] fuzzy: купи какую-то облачную субд
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