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[01:11:00] singularity: slav0nic: а что такого ?
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[01:13:48] slav0nic: singularity, то я не то копирнул похоже=\ хотел MVC фреймворк аля джанга на coffescript
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[01:38:54] fuzzy: а вот кто-то же пишет ещё под веб, да?
[01:39:04] fuzzy: вот у меня есть какой-то аякс, который на сервер ходит. иногда несколько раз подряд
[01:39:32] fuzzy: я правильно понимаю, что если новый запрос уходит раньше, чем предыдущий вернулся, то это новое TCP/HTTP соединение?
[01:39:45] fuzzy: а если по очереди, то в одно могут влезть?
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[01:48:29] singularity: fuzzy: а у тебя ограничение на количество http соединений ?
[01:48:42] fuzzy: ограничения нет. просто новое соединение долго открывать
[01:49:53] fuzzy: на моём Raspberry Pi сервере какой-то хреновый вайфай модуль. иногда открывает новое TCP соединение до 200-300мс
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[01:51:07] singularity: мне интересно как ты это в один запишнешь ?
[01:51:22] fuzzy: ну HTTP keep-alive же
[01:52:01] fuzzy: можно в http/1.1 посылать несколько HTTP запросов в одном соединении. если по очереди
[01:52:51] singularity: первый раз слышу
[01:52:58] singularity: у тебя сервер асинхронный ?
[01:53:12] fuzzy: хм..
[01:53:33] fuzzy: хороший вопрос)
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[01:54:40] singularity: ну ок. Делаю GET /posts, а затем GET /forum как это будет при keep-alive ? и как его на сервере обрабатывать ?
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[01:55:58] fuzzy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_persistent_connection
[01:56:26] singularity: я прочитал на русском
[01:56:52] singularity: а зачем тогда websockets ?
[01:56:59] singularity: чет я нифига не понял)
[01:57:08] fuzzy: вебсокеты - чтобы с сервера на клиент посылать данные
[01:57:27] fuzzy: persistent connection - чтобы с клиента посылать несколько полноценных HTTP запросов подряд
[01:59:20] singularity: так это фича сервера ? мне например не надо для этой фигни (keepalive) что писать ? только сервер настроить ?
[02:00:31] fuzzy: в ссылке выше написано: In HTTP 1.1, all connections are considered persistent unless declared otherwise.
[02:00:47] fuzzy: скорее всего, за тебя сервер это сам-по-себе делает
[02:00:57] fuzzy: прозрачно для твоего wsgi приложения
[02:02:19] singularity: как это прозрачно ? я могу вмешаться в это дело ? мб это вообще приложения не касается
[02:02:43] fuzzy: ну как прозрачно…
[02:02:55] fuzzy: проубер послыает себе Connection: keep-alive
[02:03:04] fuzzy: и сервер после первого запроса не рубит соединение
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[02:03:16] fuzzy: и броузер может послать ещё HTTP запрос в то же содинение
[02:03:23] fuzzy: независимый от первого запрос
[02:03:33] fuzzy: например, какой-то ресурс, картинку, js запросить вслед за html
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[02:12:28] fuzzy: да, сервер асинхронный)
[02:12:42] singularity: nginx типа ?
[02:13:52] singularity: а кто знает как скопировать текст с html страницы без мышки ?
[02:14:17] fuzzy: встроенный в go
[02:14:22] fuzzy: через nginx
[02:14:31] singularity: О_о
[02:15:17] fuzzy: а чо?
[02:16:51] fuzzy: у меня вышел пылесос с RESTful API на go. а морду к нему на JS отлаживать удобнее на ноуте. а у аякса этот same-origin policy. Вот и пришлось заворачивать всё в nginx-прокси
[02:18:17] singularity: `o_O
[02:20:02] singularity: fuzzy: а вход через simple http auth ?
[02:20:22] fuzzy: пока вход публичный
[02:20:50] singularity: смотри подберут пароль угонят пилесос :)
[02:21:08] fuzzy: ага, и всё отпылесосят!
[02:21:39] fuzzy: у меня хитрый план приделать high scores и предложить людям в интернете соревноваться в пылесошивании квартиры :D
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[02:26:16] gigimon: fuzzy: что пилишь?
[02:26:27] gigimon: а кип элайв да, пока он не отключился, то будет в этот коннект
[02:26:37] gigimon: и поищее твой wsgi незнает об этом
[02:26:46] gigimon: для него каждый запрос - новый
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[02:27:43] singularity: fuzzy: а как ты автоматизируешь равномерное загрязнение ?
[02:28:20] gigimon: что за сайт, покажите демоны
[02:28:49] singularity: :D
[02:30:27] gigimon: злые вы, спать пойду
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[02:42:14] fuzzy: gigimon: да всё то же, что и пару лет назад, только теперь на хипстерских go и react js.
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[12:07:17] gigimon: fuzzy: а что пару лет назад то делал? :)
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[13:07:56] opka: Всем привет. Кто-то сталкивался с проблемой, когда нужно пропарсить много-много сайтов грабом, а в ответ поулчаешь массу сообщений об ошибке типа Could not resolve: SITE.RU (Could not contact DNS servers)
[13:07:58] opka: ?
[13:08:09] opka: хотя SITE.RU вполне рабочий
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[13:10:26] madmercen: попробуй другой днс-сервер
[13:11:08] madmercen: да и мож парсер сильно грузит днс.
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[13:20:45] opka: madmercen: от гугладнс пойдет?
[13:21:01] madmercen: попробуй
[13:21:42] madmercen: посмотри код, мож он трынкает много запросов к днс-ке
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[13:24:28] opka: madmercen: а гугл днс может трынкать? :)
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[13:25:32] madmercen: наоборот. много запросов к днс-ке. из-за этого может лочит.
[13:26:00] madmercen: если это так, то есть вариант кэширующего у себя локально - установить
[13:26:10] madmercen: лочить*
[13:27:39] opka: madmercen: а какой локально ставить рекомендуете?
[13:28:09] madmercen: да тот же bind
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[13:50:59] gigimon: opka: зачем тебе локально? он всеравно сходит к другим. юзай открытые, типа гугла или 4.4.2.2
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[13:56:13] madmercen: gigimon, почему это он сходит к другим?
[13:56:37] gigimon: а откуда он возьмет инфу о доменах?
[13:56:46] gigimon: пойдет к указаным или к корневым днсам
[13:56:47] madmercen: разок сходил и все
[13:56:56] gigimon: дык ОС тоже неплохо сама кэширует
[13:57:04] gigimon: даже винда умеет кэшировать днс запросы
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[13:57:34] madmercen: на счет винды не знаю. но в целом не логично.
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[13:58:19] gigimon: почему не логично?
[13:58:29] gigimon: у винды и мака точно кэшируются запросы
[13:58:42] gigimon: на линуксах вроде тоже стоит локальный днс сервер всегда
[13:58:47] gigimon: вот только он может не юзается
[13:58:50] gigimon: это да
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[13:59:45] madmercen: скорее это враки
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[14:03:25] gigimon: что именно?
[14:03:31] gigimon: в убунте точно бинд ставился по дефолту
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[14:04:26] levsha: кеширование винды это ужас-ужас. Лучше его отрупать сразу
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[14:04:58] levsha: по моему в линуксах по умолчанию никаких биндов не поднимается для кеширования. Но кеширование лукапов выполныется, через какой-то дополнительный сервис
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[14:10:34] opka: поменял я днс, тоже самое. Это что-то с грабом, видимо
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[15:03:12] opka: Такой вопрос:
[15:03:12] singularity is now online
[15:03:22] opka: test = ["http://abcdef/ddd", "http://abcdef/ppp", "http://abcdef/feedback", "http://abcdef/pppd"]
print re.search(r'.*?(feedback).*?', ' '.join(test)).group(0)

[15:03:52] opka: как мне отсюда получить только ссылку с feedbackom, не прибегая к for x in test: regep is here ?
[15:03:53] singularity: да
[15:04:02] singularity: блин(
[15:04:04] opka: сейчас я получаю "http://abcdef/ddd http://abcdef/ppp http://abcdef/feedback"
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[15:06:58] opka: как криворукий вариант можно, кончено, так: print re.search(r'.*(feedback).*?', '#'.join(test)).group(0).split("#")[-1]
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[15:09:43] fuzzy: [x for x in test if 'feeback' in x]
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[15:12:58] opka: ну это вс равно идет перебор
[15:13:18] opka: а мне надо всё смешат ьв один массив и в нем найти все совпадения ( вообще буду юзать findall)
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[16:37:15] singularity: а кто-нибудь в contenttype разбирается ?
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[16:37:35] singularity: bookmark_type = ContentType.objects.get_for_model(b)
что эта строчка делает ?

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[16:39:11] singularity: возвращает обджект в модели в таблице ContentType ?
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[16:40:01] singularity: ContentType.objects.get_model_for(b) мне кажется так было бы понятней если я прав
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[17:22:30] fuzzy: singularity: тебе кажется неправильно
[17:23:02] fuzzy: т.к. в твоём случае можно ожидать, что оно вернёт какую-то модель, соответствующую непонятно чему
[17:23:36] fuzzy: а в исходном случае - оно вернёт как обычно - инстанс модели ContentType, для _модели_, которую ты ему передашь
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[20:18:27] slav0nic: https://www.linode.com/longview/
ничё так
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[20:31:49] singularity: fuzzy: ты websocket делал ?
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[20:54:21] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[20:55:14] singularity: silent_bob: ты где был ?
[20:55:35] slav0nic: singularity, диск расширял В)
[20:55:38] slav0nic: http://autobahn.ws/
ещё есть
[20:55:53] slav0nic: на twisted или ayncio для py3
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[20:56:10] singularity: slav0nic: форум тупит
[20:56:30] slav0nic: ну наверно потому-что сервак ещё стартует ...
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[20:56:47] singularity: это как ?
[20:57:04] gigimon: slav0nic: фигасе, asyncio уже прикрутили даж
[20:57:05] singularity: я про запросы по 5 сек
[20:57:41] slav0nic: gigimon, чую скоро твистед окажется не нужным с их слоупоками)
[20:58:00] gigimon: твистед для веба странно смотрится
[20:58:06] gigimon: но зато для сети - многие любят
[20:58:18] gigimon: да и набор всего у него могуч, хоть и сложен для понимания
[20:58:24] gigimon: торнадо проще
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[20:59:07] slav0nic: я cyclone юзаю, конечно кода там ен много, но inlinecallback твистеда делает из него тот же торнадо
[20:59:36] singularity: slav0nic: там почему не использовать торандо ?
[20:59:50] slav0nic: singularity, а почему не твистед?))
[20:59:58] slav0nic: кому что
[21:00:18] singularity: slav0nic: ну ты сам сказал почти торнадо ...
[21:00:32] slav0nic: почти я про простоту
[21:02:44] slav0nic: тебе думаю с торнадой проще будет
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[21:04:33] slav0nic: у твистед высокий уровень входа
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