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[02:05:24] singularity: slav0nic: удлаи плз ^
[02:05:49] slav0nic: k
[02:05:52] singularity: opka: я от зависти к тем которым нужна :(
[02:06:45] singularity: slav0nic: ты можешь забанить подсеть или страну ?
[02:07:07] singularity: че они сюда вообще лезут, не в тему вообще
[02:07:17] slav0nic: надо будет вернуть бан на домены аля меилфоспам
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[15:07:20] slav0nic: https://github.com/python/pythondotorg
на джанге
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[17:27:43] Tony: кто думает куда сваливать с питонов?
[17:29:38] gigimon: а зачем сваливать с питонов? :)
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[17:34:00] Tony: singularity, вот только D я еще не смотрел
[17:34:04] slav0nic: пиранья вон в js ушёл + ещё 1 занкомый
[17:34:06] slav0nic: лис на руби
[17:34:09] Tony: java не вариант, Go слишком избыточный
[17:34:27] Tony: slav0nic, пиранья вроде как совсем в клиентсайд вдарился
[17:35:55] Tony: gigimon, 3 питон это считай что смерть питона
[17:36:57] gigimon: я подумаю о java
[17:37:04] gigimon: но она не няшная :(
[17:37:16] gigimon: Tony: да черт знает, может к 3.5-3.6 раскачают
[17:37:26] gigimon: фреймворки потихоньку начинают поддерживать
[17:37:36] gigimon: а пиранья ж уишник нынче
[17:37:47] Tony: что раскачают?
[17:39:44] gigimon: http://frameworksdays.com/event/js-frameworks-day-2014/review/kak-pisat-UI-bez-boli-React-ClojureScript
[17:39:52] gigimon: Tony: людей и либы
[17:40:21] gigimon: как думаете, у go и clojure есть большое будущее?
[17:40:28] gigimon: или отомрут и уйдут в свои мелкие ниши?
[17:41:05] Tony: gigimon, ну либы то уже есть почти все
[17:41:22] Tony: и к тому же тенденция такова, что вместо того чтобы начинать проекты с нуля на 3 питоне люди все больше уходят на всякие скалы
[17:41:27] gigimon: ну так сейчас потихоньку начнут переходить
[17:41:42] gigimon: черт его знает, я, к сожалению, не так много знаю об этом
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[17:53:36] fuzzy: ещё Dart модно же
[17:53:42] fuzzy: для клиент-сайда, да
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[18:53:11] opka: хоп-хоп
[18:53:38] opka: задача: прочитать строку из файла и сразу ее удалить. Как это сделать оптимальнее?
[18:53:52] opka: ну или прочитать 1к строк, но потом их сразу удалить :)
[18:54:50] opka: и как лучше: читать из тхт или из бд sqlite например? Если строк, положим, 100к
[18:55:13] levsha: удалить откуда? Из файла? В файловых операциях нету "удалить"
[18:55:29] levsha: из txt читать построчно. И sqlite тоже
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[19:00:50] opka: levsha: я понимаю, что нет "удалить".
[19:01:08] opka: я думал там, может считывать строки, получать общий разер и делать truncate(size) например
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[19:01:58] levsha: truncate можно сделать. Только так можно удалить только строки в конце, а не любые. И считывать и считать размер для этого не надо. Надо всего лишь знать позицию
[19:05:54] opka: н оведь из sqlite удалять построчно проще, нежели из тхт, верно?
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[19:06:25] opka: для тхт нужно создавать нечто временное, будь то спиок или файл
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[19:20:16] opka: levsha:
[19:20:21] opka: ваше мнение? :)
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[19:21:04] gigimon: opka: да
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[19:30:42] remo: fuzzy: autocmd BufWritePre {*.py} silent! SessionSave<CR> | set expandtab | retab! 4 | call UpdateTags() проблема. Если убрать <CR> - то всё ок
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[19:31:23] remo: fuzzy: а так дальше <CR> не идёт
[19:31:24] fuzzy: что делает | ?
[19:31:36] remo: fuzzy: конвееризация
[19:32:06] fuzzy: сделай по-человечески, отдельными строками, не?
[19:32:23] fuzzy: эм
[19:32:35] fuzzy: может если убрать <CR> и всё ок, то просто убери <CR>? и всё будет ок?
[19:34:44] remo: fuzzy: если нет сессии, то тогда запрашивает энтер
[19:34:47] remo: это напрягает
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[19:35:30] remo: fuzzy: несколькими строками прокатило
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[19:50:53] gigimon: remo: ты уже столько настраиваешь вим, что проще было свой написать
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[19:58:47] remo: gigimon: я думаю этот процесс бесконечен
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[21:01:18] singularity: gigimon: виме просто очень много фич + можно использовать внешние программы bash, python и т.д. Для того-же pycharma написать плагин - это ад
[21:01:41] gigimon: мне в пичарме все ок
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[21:04:54] fuzzy: в пичарме всё ок, а к виме - лучше)
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[21:14:53] remo: а кто работал с gae ?
[21:15:02] remo: где сам sdk брать и тд ?
[21:15:07] remo: дистриб гента
[21:15:19] remo: я смотрю в портаж нет аппэнджин
[21:15:24] remo: вижу он есть в оверлеях
[21:15:34] remo: а в pip он может есть ?
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[21:15:54] remo: fuzzy: не подскажешь ? Ты ж у нас тут гуглбосс)
[21:16:50] remo: pip gae - Google App Engine SDK for Python
[21:17:02] singularity: remo: вижу он есть в оверлеях а в чем проблема ?
[21:18:08] fuzzy: http://gpo.zugaina.org/dev-python/google-appengine/ChangeLog
[21:18:15] fuzzy: другого не знаю
[21:18:24] fuzzy: (я и этого не знал, пока не погуглил только что)
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[21:45:07] singularity: remo: а можно сделать что-бы bundle качал плагины c github через ssh а не http ?
[21:45:50] remo: vundle
[21:45:58] singularity: ноу
[21:46:09] singularity: а да)
[21:46:15] remo: погугли)
[21:47:22] singularity: задача в общем виде я скачал репозиторий с гитхаба через http. куда что вписать что-бы он использовал мой ssh ключ ?
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[21:51:17] singularity: последнее нашел
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[22:37:27] remo: товарисчи, так кто работал с gae ?
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[22:47:04] Tony: соцопрос?
[22:47:08] Tony: я оче давно работал
[22:54:03] remo: Tony: на какой ос ?
[22:54:08] remo: в смысле дистриб какой
[22:54:16] Tony: ооо там даже дистрибы появились :)
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[22:54:28] Tony: когда я работал там только RHD в бете был
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[22:54:56] remo: Tony: я имею ввиду линукс дистр
[22:55:24] Tony: в смысле разрабатывал на чем?
[22:55:32] remo: Tony: da
[22:55:42] Tony: я не помню, арч по-моему
[22:56:10] remo: Tony: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/web-services/excerpts/9780596800697/run-google-app-linux.html
[22:56:18] remo: ты так это ставил или как ?
[22:56:25] remo: просто если в генте подключить оверлей gentoo-zh
[22:56:55] remo: то ловлю такие вещи
[blocks B ] dev-python/pillow ("dev-python/pillow" is blocking dev-python/imaging-1.1.7-r2)
[blocks B ] dev-python/imaging ("dev-python/imaging" is blocking dev-python/pillow-2.0.0-r1)

[22:57:28] remo: походу чтобы от этого избавиться - надо перейти на ~amd64 ветку. А это мне нафиг не надо
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[23:01:14] Tony: просто анзипнул и уже все работало
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