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[02:27:21] singularity: remo: а ты макросы используешь ?
[02:28:14] remo: singularity: иногда
[02:30:10] singularity: вот я хочу со словаря сделать сделать набор аргументов для функции
с {'f':7, 'd'=8} в (f=7, d=8)
[02:30:20] singularity: remo: это ж макросы нужны да ?
[02:33:22] remo: singularity: вот таким никогда не занимался
[02:33:36] remo: singularity: если найдёшь решение - расскажешь)
[02:37:04] singularity: хм на макросах можно сделать рекурсию или while ?
[02:41:36] singularity: remo: такое впринципе можно сделать. Мб завтра попробую
[02:42:15] remo: singularity: не знаю. Я записываю какое-то действие, потом воспроизвожу макрос и он мне всякую фигню делает
[02:42:21] remo: в остальном я хз, не вникал
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[02:55:42] remo: fuzzy: по-моему singularity сильно вошёл в образ:)
[02:57:36] fuzzy: singularity: из словаря сделать аргументы функции - это **
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[05:56:27] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[06:50:00] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[13:44:09] MAVr is now — Уважаемые пассажиры! Убедительно просим вас не аплодировать экипажу до полной остановки самолета. Спасибо!
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[18:48:09] fuzzy: видимо, лавры гугла в самом неудачном имени языка программирования не дают многим покоя
[18:48:16] fuzzy: https://code.facebook.com/posts/264544830379293/hack-a-new-programming-language-for-hhvm/
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[19:02:56] Tony: ну только php-like только в 2014
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[20:02:25] singularity: Tony: пора бы уже отказаться от С like
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[20:03:59] Tony: под c-like ты подразумеваешь все структурные языки?
[20:05:20] singularity: Tony: ну я имел ввиду моду что-бы язык был похож синтаксисом на си. Мне это не нравиться
[20:05:56] Tony: singularity, а какие могут быть варианты кроме функциональщины где синтаксис не похож в принципе?
[20:05:59] singularity: или тся
[20:06:43] singularity: Tony: python perl ruby groovi . scala тоже функциональщина ?
[20:08:27] singularity: лиспы тоже фигня
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[20:10:04] Tony: нет
[20:10:18] Tony: точней из всего тобой перечисленного кроме лиспа скала более функциональна
[20:10:45] Tony: а в питоне от функциональности только налет
[20:12:43] singularity: Tony: я наверно неправильно понял твой вопрос. Я навел пример не функциональных языков с не C-like синтакисом
[20:13:21] singularity: -perl
+lua
[20:13:31] Tony: что по твоему c-like?
[20:13:34] Tony: скобочки?
[20:15:07] singularity: да { Tony ;
}
[20:16:40] singularity: Я про то что они не везде нужны ибо и так понятна структура кода но нет мы сделаем что-бы сишникам и php шникам было удобно писать код.
[20:17:04] singularity: Так и рождаются Сoffe Scriptи всякие
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[20:32:39] Tony: но семантика ведь куда важнее
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[23:28:44] singularity: Tony: что ты имеешь ввиду под семантикой ?
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[23:30:39] Tony: singularity, трогал функциональщину
[23:30:40] Tony: ?
[23:32:10] remo: /me лучше синтаксиса чем python в жизни не видел
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[23:34:20] remo: кстати в си можно отказаться частично от {}
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[23:36:42] remo: но я когда-то дебажил один очень интересный момент типа:
if(cond)
{

}

и

if(cond)
<tab>
<tab>

и эти две конструкции давали два разных опкода. И в том случае, что был у меня - это было офигительно критично. После этого я везде стал использовать {}, даже если в {} была одна строка
[23:37:21] remo: компилер: visual studio. За gcc не могу ничего сказать
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