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[10:06:09] Magister Yoda: singularity: мы разные
[10:06:53] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: git cherry. git diff не показывает коммиты. он показывает diff, как ни странно...
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[16:56:14] vaal: Magister Yoda: на связи
[16:56:45] Magister Yoda: vaal: кароче это жесть какая-то) проблема была не в этом. а в том, что несколько дней назад выпилили мою ссылку /registration/ ревертом коммита другого чела
[16:57:05] Magister Yoda: хз почему в его коммит попала моя ссылка)
[16:57:09] vaal: :D
[16:57:21] freemanua: ку
[16:57:27] Magister Yoda: а у меня не подпуллено было и ссылка у меня на месте была
[16:58:01] freemanua: парни, кто возьмется подтянуть 1-2 джунов по django, а лучше flask+slqalchemy ?
[16:58:17] freemanua: или посоветуйте контор киевских, куда возьмут
[16:58:52] Magister Yoda: freemanua: сами подтягивайте/подтягивайтесь
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[17:00:44] freemanua: сами упираймся в какие-то вещи, над которыми потом тупить получается по несколько дней
[17:01:14] freemanua: хотябы в режиме позадавать вопросов тому кто уже прошел этот квест, не бесплатно
[17:02:00] vaal: Magister Yoda: как говориться, вот это поворот )) мне собсна это интересно было потому что была аналогичная ситуация с урлом, но из-за дедлайна некогда было разбираться чего я там накрутил ночью, откатил изменения и на свежую голову сделал "снова", но ошибки уже не случилось. вот и думаю периодически что же это было
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[17:04:06] fuzzy: freemanua: можно запустить их сюда
[17:04:09] fuzzy: /me подставил кассу
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[17:04:37] freemanua: fuzzy: один из них сейчас здесь)))
[17:04:52] fuzzy: /me протрусил кассой
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[17:05:55] levsha: fuzzy: а ты налоги заплатишь?
[17:06:08] levsha: /me прищурился и внимательно рассматривает кассира
[17:06:12] fuzzy: levsha: можно оплачивать сразу на 565, например
[17:06:48] levsha: fuzzy: не, туда не надо. Может генералу на дачу уйти...
[17:07:38] freemanua: fuzzy: ты с sqlalchemy знаком?
[17:07:45] fuzzy: работал немного
[17:07:53] freemanua: насколько немного?)
[17:08:00] freemanua: и с чем много работал?
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[17:08:12] fuzzy: это соц опрос?
[17:08:33] fuzzy: немного пользовался и писал обёртку для своей mysql библиотеки
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[17:09:09] freemanua: fuzzy: это поиск более опытных))
[17:09:24] levsha: более опытные более дорого
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[17:09:59] freemanua: дайте контакты если у кого есть, кто-бы взялся немного подтянуть меня и товарища в django или flask + sqlalchemy
[17:10:23] fuzzy: расскажи хоть, какой город и сколько денег?
[17:10:23] freemanua: levsha: я расценок пока вообще не увидел
[17:10:27] freemanua: киев
[17:10:36] freemanua: fuzzy: .
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[17:23:47] vaal: в киеве вроде даже какие то курсы были
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[17:28:04] freemanua: были, но чет они быстро загнулись))
[17:28:28] vaal: http://digitov.com/course/programming-python-django-courses пишут что осенью 2014
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[17:35:15] freemanua: да я хотел за лето уже что-то подучить
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[17:37:20] singularity: freemanua: у Светлова были курсы. Ты о них знаешь7
[17:37:24] levsha: за лето можно столько подучить... Даже самому. Если фигней не страдать, конечно
[17:37:51] freemanua: singularity: знаю, вот как раз смотрю когда они стартуют и стартуют ли)
[17:40:00] singularity: freemanua: а что значит подтянуть?
[17:40:14] freemanua: singularity: пробелы заполнить
[17:40:40] singularity: а документация и код? или пытать в человека удобней?
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[17:45:12] freemanua: документация обычно на уровне хелловорлдов, код не всегда понятен
[17:45:43] freemanua: гугл иногда не выдает ответ на вопрос "как сделать эту штуку"
[17:46:38] singularity: посоветуйте мне структуру данных
[17:46:46] freemanua: и стэковерфлоу молчит
[17:48:37] singularity: Вот есть такая матрица
0 1 2 3
1 Y Y Y
2 Y Y N
3 Y N N
[17:49:06] singularity: она говорит совместимы ли 1 с 2, 1 с 3
[17:49:25] singularity: причем если 1 совместим с 2 значит 2 совмести с 1
[17:49:34] singularity: понятно то что я написал?
[17:50:07] singularity: матрица каг-бе зеркальная по оси
[17:50:20] singularity: fuzzy: ты меня понимаешь?
[17:51:26] singularity: например если 1 совместис с 3
0 1 2 3
1 _ _ Y
2 _ _ _
3 Y _ _
[17:52:23] fuzzy: singularity: да
[17:52:52] singularity: fuzzy: и в чемс такое обычно хранят?
[17:54:51] singularity: каг-бе словарь с двумя ключами
[17:56:11] levsha: почему словарь если двумерный массив?
[17:56:33] singularity: levsha: это не двумерный масив
[17:58:39] levsha: singularity: это легко предоставляется как двумерный масив
[17:58:52] singularity: levsha: да
[17:58:54] fuzzy: singularity: двумерный массив вполне
[17:58:59] singularity: :(
[17:59:07] fuzzy: можно хранить только половину, если там очень много данных
[17:59:13] singularity: а если я свой костыль сделаю?
[17:59:15] levsha: singularity: другое дело, что тут хоршо бы знать что именно ты с ним собираешься делать. Тогда будет понятно как лучше хранить
[17:59:21] fuzzy: а если ещё и много пропусков, то можно 2d словарь
[18:00:00] levsha: или вообще массив координат-пересечений хранить
[18:00:10] levsha: но искать по такому массиву придется перебором
[18:00:17] fuzzy: туплы - ключи в словаре
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[18:00:55] fuzzy: если стопицот данных - в numpy есть SparseMatrix
[18:01:21] singularity: fuzzy: а как расширыть что-бы порядок ключей в тупле был случайный?
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[18:01:41] singularity: ну вот я сохранил (1,2) а хочу получить (2,1)
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[18:02:02] fuzzy: просто
[18:02:03] singularity: answer: просто сортировать :3
[18:02:08] fuzzy: именно
[18:02:57] singularity: да туплы как ключи хорошо
[18:03:03] singularity: fuzzy: +1
[18:03:03] levsha: всё же хорошо бы знать задачу, а именно что именно ты с данными делать будешь
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[18:03:38] singularity: levsha: совместимость скидок между собой.
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[18:03:54] singularity: это не важно на самом деле
[18:05:13] levsha: это важно на самом деле
[18:05:31] levsha: то есть у тебя есть набор чисел, и тебе нужно проверить, что они все попарно совместимы?
[18:06:33] singularity: я надеюсь что потом будут числа ибо мне так проще
[18:06:57] levsha: ну то уже детали, не важные на самом деле
[18:07:04] singularity: я пока попробую алгоритм реализовать, а потом как-то прикручу базу данных если надо будет
[18:08:04] levsha: для этой задачи тебе не нужно из (1,2) получать (2,1). Тебе нужно набор чисел выстроить в возрастающем порядке, а потом для каждого числа проверять совместимость только с числами, которы больше него. Проверять совместимость с числами, которые меньше, нет необходимости
[18:08:26] singularity: нуэ
[18:08:28] singularity: ты прав
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[18:11:21] levsha: ну и соответственно хранить тебе можно только половину матрицы
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[20:24:45] singularity: fuzzy: то вы с freemanua договорились?
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[20:25:39] fuzzy: нет
[20:25:58] fuzzy: ну как
[20:25:59] singularity: пичаль
[20:26:01] fuzzy: я с ним договорился
[20:26:04] singularity: много попросил
[20:26:09] fuzzy: а он - ет)
[20:26:10] fuzzy: нет
[20:26:21] fuzzy: всё, что договорился - було тут в чате
[20:26:28] singularity: тю
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