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[00:27:39] CaufMAN: Если еще не все спят - есть потребность выводить на всех листах одно и то же динамическое содержимое (список ссылок на активные разделы). Мне результат выборки из базы всегда в каждое представление и шаблон пихать. или как то можно эти данные не с нижнего шаблона передавать, а сразу в базовый?
[00:29:52] CaufMAN: наверно криво описал
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[00:35:51] CaufMAN: В общем система шаблонов такая: Базовый -> нижний. В базовом - разметка листа на области (топ-бар, контент и т.д.), в нижнем - сам контент и конкретные значения. По сути, список разделов нужен только в верхнем уровне, в базовом. Но при вызове шаблона, представление передает переменные в нижний уровень. Мне теперь в каждом представлении вызывать список разделов, передавать его в нижний уровень шаблолна, чтоб подставить в базовый? Или как то можно привязать только к базовому чтою оно само обновлялось? При чтении доков не нашел ответа на подобный вопрос
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[02:19:17] fuzzy: CaufMAN не передавай список разделов из представления
[02:19:21] fuzzy: сделай специальный иемплейттег
[02:19:31] fuzzy: который будет тебе этот список выдавать
[02:19:39] fuzzy: и вызывай темплейттег в базовом шаблоне
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[09:23:24] CaufMAN is now Да, я здесь.
[09:23:57] CaufMAN: singularity: я посмотрел на контекст менеджер. Идея с тэгом нравится больше
[09:24:15] CaufMAN: fuzzy: Спасибо за совет, буду разбираться!
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[09:42:19] CaufMAN: fuzzy: не смог найти твой совет мне по первому проекту. Там, где ты советовал довести его работоспособность до 10 000 запросов в... В какую еденицу измерения? :)
[09:42:47] CaufMAN: fuzzy: минуту ли секунду?
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[10:03:49] singularity: CaufMAN: почему?
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[10:05:26] CaufMAN: singularity: пока сам не знаю. :) Наверное работа с тэгами кажется более интересной. В общем свои нубские причины!
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[10:13:40] singularity: CaufMAN: ты программированием занимаешся уже 5 лет?
[10:14:44] CaufMAN: singularity: Хочется поставить "???" Откуда такие данные?
[10:16:54] singularity: CaufMAN: дай ссылку на свой гитхаб
[10:17:05] CaufMAN: singularity: если не учитывать QBasic в универе и TurboPascal6,0 в школе, то программировать начал в феврале прошлого года, фактически с нуля.
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[10:18:04] CaufMAN: singularity: во первых не гит, а битбакет, во вторых там пока нет того, что я тебе писал. Не часто пушу. Еще привычки нет. Локально в основном пользуюсь
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[10:19:20] singularity: CaufMAN: https://github.com/axce1 твое?
[10:20:19] CaufMAN: singularity: мне вот прям жутко интересен сейчас ход твоиз мыслей!
[10:20:43] CaufMAN: singularity: что из фразы "во первых не гит, а битбакет" тебе не понятно?
[10:21:01] singularity: хз. Вроде ты кидал на это ссылку
[10:21:04] singularity: Joined on Mar 23, 2009
<https://github.com/axce1/followers>
[10:21:45] CaufMAN: singularity: не-не-не... Я там бываю только скачать либы в исходниках. И все. Гит не пользую, как и гитхаб. Только хг и битбакет
[10:21:55] singularity: сори тогда
[10:22:06] singularity: я думал то твое
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[10:32:36] singularity: remo: привет
[10:32:42] singularity: remo: ты живой еще?
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[10:33:42] singularity: может уже сепаратисты убили тебя и захватили твой комп, но ничего не могут сделать с гентой и dwm
[10:34:16] CaufMAN: singularity: О! Старые добрые шутки по поводу сепартистов
[10:34:44] singularity: это была шутка про красноглазиков
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[10:39:12] singularity: вот есть у меня куча css с ссылками на картинки в нем. Переношу я статику в амазон или на другой сервер и шо мне править всю эту фигню?
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[10:40:07] CaufMAN: singularity: а есть другие варианты? :) Я например не встречал
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[13:16:14] alexstos86: AlexZenon: Alex Zant?
[13:17:00] AlexZenon: alexstos86: ?
[13:17:24] alexstos86: AlexZenon: Извини, ошибься видимо)
[13:17:30] CaufMAN: Вот и еще один курс на htmlacademy пройжен! Про сетки из блоков. Итого осталось 4 курса из бесплатной программы: Фоны, Мастерская (в двух частях) и финальные испытания! Считай скоро заканчиваю сие обучения основам html и css. Можете поздравлять, чо!
[13:20:10] singularity: CaufMAN: ты херней занимаешся
[13:21:07] CaufMAN: singularity: эт чо это? я например в css ниразу не мог. Да и html знал в 3,5 тэга до изучения этого курса
[13:21:36] singularity: я тоже не могу :)
[13:21:39] alexstos86: CaufMAN: почем курс?
[13:21:50] CaufMAN: singularity: я уже молчу о блочной верстке и многопанельной структуре
[13:22:07] CaufMAN: alexstos86: бесплатно базовая часть. Там где то 20 курсов
[13:22:56] CaufMAN: singularity: и ты работаешь в вебе?
[13:23:02] singularity: CaufMAN: нет
[13:23:08] CaufMAN: singularity: ну и? :)
[13:23:35] CaufMAN: singularity: тебя не смущает, что я джангу изучаю? :) мне то по профилю как раз!
[13:24:01] singularity: CaufMAN: мне просто кажеться если прочитать книжку по css и попытаться сверстать сайтик то знания будут глубже
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[13:24:43] singularity: но хз тебе видней
[13:24:44] CaufMAN: А кто нибудь знает подобные курсы бесплатные под js или jquery?
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[13:25:53] CaufMAN: singularity: книга это надо сидеть и втыкать. А курс можно за обед пробежать между делом. теория та же излагается, но сразу в привязке к конкретному примеру с практическим заданием (вот те html, вот css, здесь результат твоего быдлокода, а здесь ты видишь что получится)
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[13:26:14] singularity: http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/javascript
[13:26:17] singularity: http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/jquery
[13:27:01] CaufMAN: singularity: кстати да, как вариант. Заодно ангийский попробую подтянуть, а то я троешник по языкам
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[13:47:29] fuzzy: http://blog.codeschool.com/post/90008414063/weve-partnered-with-google-to-support-women курсы
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[13:49:50] gigimon: чуваки джангисты, может кто плотно работал с формсетами?
[13:50:00] gigimon: подскажите за formset, а именно такую вещь. Я использую формсет, чтобы вывести modelform и еще в этом же формсете вывожу несколько предзаполненых форм, которые юзер может сохранить, а может не сохранять (это на js будет сделано). Предзаполненые формы я вывожу вне <form> из-за чего при сабмите количество форм отправляемых на сервер меньше, чем в TOTAL_FORMS
[13:50:13] gigimon: как в таком случае быть? хачить request.POST и менять TOTAL_FORMS?
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[14:10:35] CaufMAN: /me сделал заметку в блокнотик: "посмотреть, что такое formset и modelform"
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[14:14:58] slav0nic: gigimon, наверно раз ты делаешь это через js то тотал формс логичней менять им же
[14:15:41] gigimon: slav0nic: да я потом тоже так решил. Я скорее хотел убедиться, что это правильный способ
[14:15:48] slav0nic: https://github.com/elo80ka/django-dynamic-formset
[14:15:56] slav0nic: ну я такое решение видел)
[14:16:02] slav0nic: нормальное
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[16:55:22] opka: всем привет. webapp2, gae. Вывожу на страницу в таблице значения из бд. Там же в таблице есть ссылка show more, перейдя на которую я хочу показать юольше инфы
[16:55:50] opka: как здесь люди делают: при нажатии на more info снова бегут в бд и берут еще инфы, или как-то передают ее?
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[16:56:12] opka: у меня сейчас считывается из бд вся инфа, но как ее передать в другой хендлер я не знаю :) что-то типа глобальной переменной надо
[16:56:42] fuzzy: это называется кеш
[16:56:58] opka: кидат ьее в гуглокеш?
[16:56:59] fuzzy: с ним проблема может быть - его сбрасывать когда он протухает
[16:57:16] fuzzy: есть разные варианты
[16:57:22] fuzzy: в зависимости от того, что у тебя
[16:57:40] fuzzy: можно, например, передавать сразу все данные на страницу с деатлями
[16:57:53] fuzzy: и джаваскриптом прятать лишнее, пока не нажали на more info
[16:58:08] fuzzy: и без перезагрузки страницы открывать данные джаваскриптом опять же
[16:58:17] opka: fuzzy: с js было бы всё просто. У меня строго настрого запрещено использование js
[16:58:24] fuzzy: ок
[16:58:53] fuzzy: я с GAE не работал ни разу, но могу пойти и за тебя вбить в гугл GAE memcache
[16:59:10] opka: про кеш я знаю, я думал, может как-то еще можно
[16:59:19] opka: у меня опыт разработки не такйо огромный
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[17:00:37] opka: У меня собсно два хендлера: допустим FirstHAndler, который ывод первую инфу (он получает из БД ВСЮ инфу, но выводит только часть) и MoreInfoHandler, который должен вывести всю
[17:01:24] opka: я могу ему передать id например и он по id будет брать из бд нужную инфу. Но это, получается, при каждом клацании на more info будут запросы в бд
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[17:02:56] fuzzy: да
[17:03:52] opka: а это хорошо или плохо?
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[17:05:37] opka: или мне чиатть инфу при инициализации хендлера, и сделать 1 хендлер на 2 запроса, просто внутри сомтреть, какой get пришел?
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[17:14:08] opka: fuzzy:
[17:14:09] opka: :)
[17:14:16] opka: втео авторитетное мнение? :)
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[17:16:21] fuzzy: чем тебе поможет один хендлер на два запроса?
[17:16:27] fuzzy: хранить данные в локальной переменной?
[17:16:32] fuzzy: это вряд ли будет работать в gae
[17:16:36] fuzzy: лучше memcache
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[17:24:30] opka: fuzzy: там есть штука, key-value cache. Я так понимаю key надо как-то рандомно генерить, а value = ответ от бд? :)
[17:24:40] opka: в смысле такой вариант имеет право на жизнь или лучше не надо?
[17:25:16] fuzzy: "я могу ему передать id например и он по id будет брать из бд нужную инфу"
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[17:25:20] fuzzy: key = id
[17:25:25] fuzzy: value = ответ от бд
[17:25:41] fuzzy: бери нужную инфу из кеша, а если там нет - бери из бд и клади в кеш
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[19:47:50] obivan: Где взять API укрзализници?
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[19:55:49] fuzzy: на сайте?
[19:56:34] slav0nic: думаю они только партнёрам выдают
[19:57:49] obivan: лажа полная
[19:57:52] obivan: короче
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[19:59:41] fuzzy: вот такое есть http://www.argest.com.ua/uticket-api/
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[20:00:10] obivan: продавать билеты
[20:00:12] fuzzy: но тут только для покупки
[20:00:21] fuzzy: тогда парсить сайт)
[20:00:24] fuzzy: ну или таки им написать
[20:00:26] fuzzy: в поддержку
[20:00:37] obivan: легче парсить)
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[22:56:21] singularity: slav0nic: ты тут?
[22:56:41] remo: singularity: я его секретарь. Что ты хотел ?
[22:56:56] singularity: remo: забань его http://python.su/forum/topic/24555/?page=1#post-130052
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[22:58:20] remo: singularity: пиши в тикет на сайте. На мыло прилетит письмо и slav0nic его обработает
[22:58:33] singularity: remo: где тикеты?
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[23:01:41] remo: singularity: ну в саппорт
[23:01:57] remo: singularity: что ты его отвлекаешь. Есть мыло - пиши, он обработает
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[23:03:32] singularity: remo: ну так джаббер онлайн типа
[23:03:55] slav0nic: ок
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[23:07:31] remo: singularity: я не знаю как там у вас, но я бы не стал так делать. Есть мыло проекта - напиши туда. Админ посмотрит и обработает
[23:08:05] singularity: remo: ну славоник меня не гонит пусть терпит :B
[23:08:17] singularity: че я мыло ему буду засорять
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[23:17:58] singularity: cutwater: привет
[23:18:11] singularity: slav0nic: очисти ему сесию
[23:18:16] cutwater: привет
[23:18:23] cutwater: да давненько меня здесь не было
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[23:22:35] singularity: cutwater: зашел жаловаться на админчика?)
[23:24:06] cutwater: нет а чо?
[23:25:04] singularity: slav0nic: а почему у меня Беркут на аве?
[23:25:41] slav0nic: хз
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[23:26:03] singularity: slav0nic: ты мою фотку сохранил? у меня другой нет
[23:26:26] singularity: slav0nic: а шо мне и почту сломали? я через нее только могу входить Ж(
[23:27:13] slav0nic: ты в теории бв снимался чтоли?) http://python.su/media/djangobb_forum/avatars/2eb43d0b4916151dabc111b5f13e5837499142fa.png загуглил бы
[23:28:21] singularity: :B
[23:28:39] singularity: я думал взрослые дяди такое не смотрят :D
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[23:31:38] singularity: slav0nic: а почему герб на нашивке? не канонично
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[23:40:21] singularity: slav0nic: там еще он наспамил. Ты шо не можешь релайтед удалить?
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