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[20:08:16] remo: ImmutableDict = frozen set ?
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[20:22:14] fuzzy: с чего бы?
[20:23:48] remo: fuzzy: еще раз спрошу: я передаю в функцию много параметров. Поэтом всё это дело я оформил в словарь и передаю словарь фунции. Удобно. Но дело в том, что словарь можно изменять. А там константы. Как правильно сериализировать это ?
[20:23:55] remo: но чтобы нельзя было эти параметры менять
[20:25:19] fuzzy: не использовать питон..
[20:25:20] fuzzy: ну э..
[20:25:28] fuzzy: во-первых, тебе не обязательно самому делать словарь
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[20:25:48] fuzzy: можно просто передавать как именованные параметры, а в функции принимать как **kwargs
[20:26:14] fuzzy: но да. в питоне всё передаётся по ссылке, так что так чтобы не менялось - нельзя
[20:26:26] fuzzy: можно сделать копии перед вызовом и передать копии
[20:26:32] fuzzy: !pydoc copy.deepcopy
[20:26:38] remo: fuzzy: да неудобно. Ты не понял:)
[20:27:23] remo: fuzzy: func(arg1,arg2,arg3,arg4,arg5,arg6,..,arg20)
[20:27:46] fuzzy: ты что-то делаешь не так
[20:27:50] fuzzy: попробуй использовать ООП
[20:27:59] fuzzy: состояние, инкапсулированное в объекты
[20:28:27] remo: fuzzy: да всё так, просто много данных используется. Удобней передавать словарь, а в функции уже отбирать то, что нужно в функции
[20:28:27] fuzzy: тогда ты можешь у объектов сделать публичные геттеры, например, а те, кто будут изменять аттрибуты напрямую - редиски
[20:28:35] fuzzy: remo: не так
[20:29:02] fuzzy: больше 5-7 аргументов - это признак дурного тона
[20:29:07] fuzzy: я бы такое в код-ревью не пропустил
[20:31:37] remo: fuzzy: короче где что почитать ?
[20:33:03] fuzzy: ну ты про ооп читал уже наверно
[20:33:11] fuzzy: теперь надо сесть и подумать
[20:33:16] fuzzy: какие параметры связаны между собой
[20:33:31] fuzzy: описывают одну сущность, например
[20:33:40] fuzzy: и объединить их в классы|bycnfycs
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[21:39:42] singularity: а че я remo все не вижу онлайн? он меня в игнор кинул?
[21:40:10] RanWise: а есть за что?
[21:41:16] singularity: RanWise: он ненормальный прост.
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