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[01:49:13] remo: singularity: кревед-превед
[01:49:31] remo: singularity: кревед-превед, юнный любитель нео-нацизмов и нео-нацистов:)
[01:49:45] singularity: remo: руки-ноги целы?
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[01:50:02] remo: *нео-нацизма и нео-нацистов
[01:50:16] remo: singularity: вашими молитвами
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[01:50:42] singularity: хотя ты юы тогда не был так весел
[01:51:01] singularity: remo: то тебя освободили?
[01:51:34] remo: singularity: да я и сейчас не особо весел
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[01:55:42] singularity: remo: а чего так?
[01:56:54] remo: singularity: на pythonua-talks заходи расскажу
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[02:01:34] singularity: remo: а тебе монго как?
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[02:09:46] remo: singularity: не до монги пока
[02:09:58] singularity: remo: а что делаешь?
[02:11:54] remo: singularity: ты не поверишь. Все тем же проектом упарываемся.
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[02:12:24] remo: singularity: а так пока интернеты не работают(только киевстар gprs со скоростью 0.1 байта в секунду) таки заставил себя читать книги по питону
[02:12:49] singularity: remo: я не вкурсе что у тебя за проджект.
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[10:08:44] MAVr is now — Уважаемые пассажиры! Убедительно просим вас не аплодировать экипажу до полной остановки самолета. Спасибо!
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[11:53:50] sqla: hi
[11:53:50] sqla: у меня есть вопрос по алхимии
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[11:53:50] sqla: у меня три таблицы, две простые и одна связь между двумя
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[11:53:50] sqla: мне нужно в этой связи (m2m) хранить дополнительный параметр
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[11:54:32] sqla: мне нужно в одной таблице иметь несколько relationship
[11:54:42] sqla: я умею выбирать значения такие а сохранять нет
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[11:55:16] sqla: идеально для меня было бы в creator в association_proxy задать название таблицы от которой делается связь
[11:55:19] sqla: название обьекта
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[12:36:55] sqla: так что?
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[15:32:26] singularity: le
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[15:37:27] ezhik.ezhik321: Ребят подскажите по xml, как в файле поместить root=Document на 1 уровне с kml. http://dumpz.org/1178542/
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[15:38:36] ezhik.ezhik321: append и SubElement похоже не то.
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[15:43:28] sqla: ребят
[15:43:31] sqla: по алхимии подскажите?
[15:43:34] sqla: я выше писал
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[15:51:14] ezhik.ezhik321: Админы будте котиками, ответте))
[15:53:23] ezhik.ezhik321: ыыыы "Conact: lorien@lorien.name"
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[17:56:54] singularity: а структура данных которая как deque но имеет ограничаный размер и само удалять то что не влазит?
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[17:59:17] singularity: я нашел
[17:59:20] singularity: и это
[17:59:22] singularity: тада
[17:59:27] singularity: DEQUE
[17:59:37] singularity: deque(maxsize=100)
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[18:04:32] singularity: Tony: а где можно посмотреть как использовать pymongo в реальном приложении сложнее хелоуворла?
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[18:08:16] Tony: singularity, в доке pymongo хотя лучше посмотри что-нибудь вроде mongoengine если у тебя сложнее хеловорлда
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[18:09:24] singularity: Tony: ну так почему-бы мне не использовать алхимию вместо mongoengine?
[18:09:53] Tony: singularity, она разве может в mongo?
[18:10:22] singularity: Tony: нет
[18:10:52] singularity: ну вроде прикол монги в шемалес, не надо всяких миграций
[18:11:56] singularity: такое впечетление что в монго можно только твиты хранить и вставлять/вынимать простые словари
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[18:22:43] Tony: singularity, датамиграции никто не отменял и вообще миграций как таковых которые на логику не ложатся
[18:22:59] Tony: основной минус монги это отсутствие транзакций это реально жопная боль, я только по этой причине от монги и отказался
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[18:23:32] singularity: Tony: отсутвие транзакций из-за упора на скабилити?
[18:24:10] Tony: singularity, не только, но в основном да чтобы избежать распределенных транзакций
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[18:24:33] Tony: но по мне лучше все же шардинг на основе того же postgres, там хотя бы в пределах одной ноды могут быть транзакции
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[19:11:02] nmk: Tony: почему в пределах одной ноды? а как же 2pc?
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[19:15:36] ебанат: nmk, питон научился в распределенные приложения?
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[19:18:08] nmk: ну типа Psycopg exposes the two-phase commit features available since PostgreSQL 8.1 implementing the two-phase commit extensions proposed by the DB API 2.0.
[19:18:11] nmk: New in version 2.3.
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[19:18:22] nmk: 2.3 в смысле psycopg2
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[19:39:45] Tony: nmk, это вроде хрень сродни асинхронности psycopg она только там есть и больше нигде, код с этим получается тяжеловат для поддержки
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[19:40:10] Tony: хотя конкретно до этого two-phase commit я пока так и не добрался пока, потому не могу судить
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[19:41:05] nmk: ну в доке написано типа For example a recovery tool written in Python would be able to recognize the components of transactions produced by a Java program. т.е. как я понял с jdbc оно совместимо
[19:41:08] nmk: но я тоже не тыкал во всё это
[19:41:11] nmk: знаю только, что есть
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[21:15:47] singularity: levsha: а сам чего не вписался?
[21:15:49] ебанат: питон не умеет в многопоточность
[21:16:03] ебанат: не забывайте
[21:16:20] singularity: ебанат: потоки же
[21:16:21] levsha: singularity: а ты как проверяешь кто вписался, а кто нет?
[21:16:44] singularity: levsha: там вроде один человек надо, ты просто сам отправил
[21:16:51] singularity: а так ищешь дурачков
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[21:17:00] singularity: у меня лично опыта нет
[21:17:05] ебанат: есть
[21:17:13] ебанат: у меня вот исчисление процессов
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[21:18:36] singularity: ебанат: "исчисление процессов" шта?
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[21:19:03] singularity: вроде как на нормальные потоки можно только то что на Си написано
[21:19:06] singularity: питоно код не могет
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[21:26:01] levsha: singularity: с какого фига один человек?
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[21:34:58] singularity: gigimon: иншалах!
[21:35:11] gigimon: че?
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[21:36:37] singularity: я думал ты муслим
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[21:40:56] gigimon: сфигали ты так думал? О_о
[21:42:02] levsha: singularity: в общем если что там прямым текстом что нужно несколько волонтеров
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[21:52:42] fuzzy: я вписался, чо
[21:53:48] singularity: так чести и славы не будет за такое
[21:53:54] singularity: лучче сразу воевать идти
[21:54:13] levsha: singularity: ну не вписывайся. Иди воюй. Никто ж не заставляет
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