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[04:42:34] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[14:55:07] nmk: а у кого-нибудь есть 2.7.8 ? можете мне показать что говорит import datetime; print datetime.__file__
[14:56:29] nmk: у меня на дебиановском AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute '__file__' т.е. они его там куда-то в libpython2.7.so засадили
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[15:27:42] slav0nic: nmk, виртуаленв пересоздай
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[15:57:13] fuzzy: >>> import datetime; print datetime.__file__
/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/datetime.so
[16:10:40] nmk: slav0nic: дак это системный
[16:10:48] nmk: fuzzy: а версия?
[16:11:23] fuzzy: 2.7.8
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[16:11:43] fuzzy: ну, собранный из портов
[16:11:46] nmk: гм. значит дебиановце накорячили чего-то, если на маке ок
[16:11:46] fuzzy: макпортов
[16:12:15] fuzzy: а что не так?
[16:12:43] nmk: да у меня идея не видит datetime вот я и негодою
[16:13:17] fuzzy: repr(datetime) ?
[16:14:00] nmk: <module 'datetime' (built-in)>
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[16:33:51] slav0nic: nmk, в какой-то сбокре был бок в дебе
[16:33:56] slav0nic: в текущей jessie всё ок
[16:34:43] nmk: а какая у тебя версия пакета? этот только вчера приняли
[16:34:55] nmk: https://tracker.debian.org/news/570804
[16:35:56] nmk: я думаю если у тебя jessie и ты обновишься, то получишь то же что и я
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[16:38:35] singularity: nmk: >>> import datetime; print datetime.__file__
/home/ihor/.pyenv/versions/2.7.8/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/datetime.so

[16:38:50] singularity: кошерный 2.7,8
[16:39:51] slav0nic: Python 2.7.8 (default, Sep 9 2014, 22:08:43)
[GCC 4.9.1] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> from datetime import datetime
>>>

[16:40:20] nmk: slav0nic: да не. он импортится, с ним ок всё. просто он был экстеншеном, а стал built-in
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[16:40:52] slav0nic: а, ты об этом
ну у меня вируталенв вчера отпал, пересоздал - норм всё
[16:41:22] slav0nic: можешь откатиться
[16:41:30] singularity: nmk: https://github.com/yyuu/pyenv
[16:41:47] nmk: slav0nic: да не, я просто подсунул нормальный skeleton в идею
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[16:44:09] nmk: singularity: не-не-не. собирать я не хочу ничего ;)
[16:44:41] singularity: оно умеет подменять глобальный пистон
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[16:55:12] fuzzy: в datetime раьшне, вроде, были вечно проблемы с нетред-сейф импортированием..
[16:55:38] nmk: ну дебиановцы то влепили вроде как для более быстрого старта
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[16:56:44] fuzzy: или это был не datetime..
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[17:00:55] drudkh: котаны, гоу в толксы
[17:01:10] drudkh: надо обсудить зраду
[17:01:28] Tony: увагу и заручников?
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[17:02:54] drudkh: Tony: ты о чем?
[17:03:08] Tony: да так ниочем знакомые слова из украинского
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[17:59:01] nmk: slav0nic: ты ж dba был/есть. скажи, вы как-то мониторите, что, скажаем бэкап бд сделался?
[18:01:07] slav0nic: нагиосом по сообщению в логах базы, + бекап оыбчно подымался на резервном
[18:01:47] slav0nic: для бекапов тогоже постгреса сейчас вроде появилась куча приблуд
[18:02:39] nmk: мм. нет, мне немного не то надо. мне надо какой-то мониторинг, который умеет пищать если какое-то событие в какой-то промежуток времени не пришло. типа бэкапилка поломалась и собыите и завершение бэкапа не пришло
[18:03:00] nmk: насчет "в какой-то промежуток времени" это мои домыслы, я не знаю как надо это делать
[18:04:01] slav0nic: ну запускаешь проверочное событие в нужный инвервал
[18:04:07] slav0nic: если сфейлилось - то алярму шлёшь
[18:05:28] nmk: ну да, об этом я что-то не подумал ;)
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[19:11:02] Tony: вот какие пидорасы могли придумать dev пакеты
[19:11:06] Tony: за каким хером они вообще нужны?
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[19:19:35] nmk: ты про всякие .h которые часто нахер никому не нужны? :)
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[19:31:29] singularity: Tony: кстати да. Почему просто не ложить то что надо вместе с питоно пакетом?
[19:32:47] Tony: singularity, вопрос на 100 млрд UAH я однажды услышал ответ: "Чтобы не увеличивать энтропию"
[19:33:18] Tony: nmk, ага, про те что когда нужно будет что-то сбилдить обязательно понадобятся
[19:33:22] singularity: Tony: не понля юмора ответа
[19:34:17] nmk: Tony: так то сбилдить. а если не билдить, то нафиг они?
[19:34:21] Tony: singularity, извини во мне ваганыч погиб. я сам arch использую там нет dev-пакетов, на серверах стараюсь фряху ставить, там тоже нет этих ебучих девов. но сука когда у меня дебилиан, вот пиздец где наступает
[19:34:39] Tony: nmk, ты virtualenv не используешь?
[19:35:08] singularity: bcrypt с заголовками в пакете https://pypi.python.org/pypi/py-bcrypt
bcrypt которому нужен девпакет https://pypi.python.org/pypi/bcrypt
[19:35:21] singularity: и который же мне прописать в зависимости?
[19:36:01] singularity: кстати в первого в 3 раза больше скачек
[19:36:15] nmk: Tony: на своей машинке да, на продакшене нет
[19:37:16] Tony: nmk, соболезную
[19:37:57] nmk: why?
[19:39:31] singularity: Tony: а если я хочу в арче скомпилять bcrypt где мне взять заголовки?
[19:39:49] singularity: pip install bcrypt
[19:40:08] Tony: singularity, там они с бинарниками сразу идут
[19:40:20] Tony: т.е локально если установлен то и заголовки на борту
[19:40:33] Tony: nmk, потому что изоляция зависимостей проекта не может быть плохой
[19:40:51] nmk: никто не говорил, что её нету :)
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[23:16:35] gigimon is now online
[23:16:49] gigimon is now online
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[23:36:07] singularity is now away
[23:36:07] singularity is now away
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[23:41:18] singularity is now online
[23:45:40] singularity: fuzzy: ты на маке тайлинг используешь?
[23:45:58] singularity: пробовал
[23:46:04] singularity: эту штуку https://github.com/ianyh/Amethyst
[23:46:45] fuzzy: не использую
[23:47:07] fuzzy: использую BetterTouchTool чтобы окна между мониторами раскидывать и сворачивать на пол-экрана