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[01:15:08] Tony: сори конечно за оффтоп
[01:15:34] Tony: но у кого-нибудь была ситуация что с карты без пинкода ошибочно два раза платеж через магазин прошел с разными номерами транзакциямй
[01:15:54] Tony: как я понимаю по всем неподписанным чекам можно отменить транзакцию, но как?
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[01:46:35] fuzzy: Tony: в банк обратиться?
[01:46:44] fuzzy: или в визу
[01:46:49] Tony: fuzzy, в свой или в тот что транзакцию проводил?
[01:46:50] fuzzy: или в магазин
[01:46:50] Tony: у меня MC
[01:46:55] fuzzy: в свой
[01:47:01] Tony: ok, спасибо попробую
[01:47:12] Tony: магазин жлобский там пошлют точно
[01:47:13] fuzzy: в тот, что проводил - вряд ли помогут
[01:47:17] fuzzy: скорее магазин
[01:47:25] fuzzy: но если не магазин, то свой
[01:47:39] fuzzy: тогда тот, что проводил уже будет прижимать магазина
[01:47:59] Tony: все бы хорошо если еще не карта яндекс-денег
[01:48:08] Tony: там ТКС карты выдает самый стремный банк
[01:48:49] fuzzy: не знаю, как с МС, но в визе - сама система страхует от fraudulent transactions
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[11:46:45] ezhik.ezhik321: Ребята, чем с ARP запросами можно поработать(прием, передача)? scapy пробовал, но пока не вышел каменный цветок. Еще есть средства?
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[12:17:23] 2byte: Всем привет
[12:17:58] 2byte: Тут так мало людей (
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[12:46:05] fuzzy: ezhik.ezhik321: почему не не вышел?
[12:47:40] ezhik.ezhik321: fuzzy: Да я scapy на 8.1 64 bit windows поставил. Сниффит нормально, а вот отправить не получается. пишет 1 packet send а в wireshark пусто...
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[13:19:50] ezhik.ezhik321: fuzzy: Фуззи может что подскажешь?=)
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[13:22:38] fuzzy: нет
[13:22:50] ezhik.ezhik321: fuzzy: ну ладно=(
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[13:30:00] ezhik.ezhik321: fuzzy: Вы не в курсе как решить проблему или я туплю?
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[13:30:33] fuzzy: никогда со scapy не работал
[13:30:47] fuzzy: но судя по тому, что сниффит, наверно, тупишь
[13:31:07] ezhik.ezhik321: fuzzy: а с L2 работали?
[13:31:20] fuzzy: нет
[13:31:31] fuzzy: что такое L2?
[13:31:45] fuzzy: L2 кеш знаю. И метрическое пространство
[13:33:59] ezhik.ezhik321: fuzzy: Layer 2 tcp/ip
[13:34:40] ezhik.ezhik321: fuzzy: Протокол ARP?
[13:34:48] fuzzy: слышал о таком
[13:35:18] ezhik.ezhik321: fuzzy: какой либой в питоне можно работать с ARP?
[13:35:26] ezhik.ezhik321: fuzzy: может знаете?=)
[13:36:05] fuzzy: кроме scapy не знаю
[13:36:24] fuzzy: может какой-то интерфейс к ОС
[13:36:48] fuzzy: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/arprequest/0.3
[13:40:52] 2byte: Есть кто пишет на питон под виндой?
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[13:42:21] ezhik.ezhik321: fuzzy: ок гляну=)
[13:42:25] ezhik.ezhik321: fuzzy: спасибо
[13:42:28] ezhik.ezhik321: 2byte: есть
[13:42:54] levsha: apr это не l2 если что
[13:43:03] levsha: arp
[13:43:11] levsha: arp это L2-L3
[13:43:29] 2byte: ezhik.ezhik321: а pip это установщик ?
[13:43:35] ezhik.ezhik321: levsha: ок спорить не буду, не знаток.
[13:44:18] ezhik.ezhik321: 2byte: A tool for installing and managing Python packages.
[13:44:45] ezhik.ezhik321: levsha: вы имеете в виду транслит мак в Ip
[13:44:47] 2byte: ezhik.ezhik321: скачал get-pip.py запустил и консоли, в c:\Python34\Scripts\ появились файлы pip* , теперь по идеи юзать pip install package ?
[13:45:00] ezhik.ezhik321: levsha: если так то да
[13:45:10] levsha: ezhik.ezhik321: ась? Вы о чем?
[13:45:20] levsha: какой такой транслит?
[13:45:39] ezhik.ezhik321: levsha: На по ARP запросу создается таблица mac -ip
[13:45:51] ezhik.ezhik321: levsha: нет?
[13:46:11] levsha: ezhik.ezhik321: нет. По ARP создается таблица трасляции IP -> MAC. При чем тут транслит?
[13:46:23] levsha: таблицы mac -> ip не существует
[13:46:27] ezhik.ezhik321: levsha: сократил от трансляции неудачно
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[13:47:14] ezhik.ezhik321: levsha: RARP
[13:47:44] ezhik.ezhik321: levsha: ссылку на вики дать?)
[13:47:56] levsha: RARP на практике не используется и не работает
[13:48:19] levsha: и операционки не не держат таблицы трансляций mac -> ip ввиду их ненужности
[13:48:33] ezhik.ezhik321: levsha: ок, понял=)
[13:49:16] ezhik.ezhik321: 2byte: pip не юзаю, посмотрите доку=)
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[15:43:49] opka: всем привет :)
[15:47:36] opka: у меня есть таблица с полями (site, login, password). Site повторяется, не уникален.
Допустим site (mabma, bomba, pimba, simba) - по 50 записей каждый. Как мне рандомно выбрать по 1 записи для каждого site?
То бишь в результате получить типа mamba l p, bomba l p, pimba l p, simba l p (l p - login/pwd)?
[15:47:41] opka: levsha: :)
[15:48:07] opka: ъодним запросом
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[15:50:38] levsha: select distinct on (site) * from таблица order by random()
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[15:52:45] opka: mysql ;)
[15:52:52] levsha: сочувствую
[15:53:18] opka: ;)
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[15:59:51] ezhik.ezhik321 is now QIP 2012 - всё работает. Качай на www.qip.ru
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[16:01:43] ezhik.ezhik321 is now QIP 2012 - всё работает. Качай на www.qip.ru
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[16:01:59] ezhik.ezhik321 is now QIP 2012 - всё работает. Качай на www.qip.ru
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[16:02:35] ezhik.ezhik321 is now QIP 2012 - всё работает. Качай на www.qip.ru
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[16:04:23] ezhik.ezhik321 is now QIP 2012 - всё работает. Качай на www.qip.ru
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[16:06:11] ezhik.ezhik321 is now QIP 2012 - всё работает. Качай на www.qip.ru
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[16:07:27] ezhik.ezhik321 is now QIP 2012 - всё работает. Качай на www.qip.ru
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[16:11:03] ezhik.ezhik321 is now QIP 2012 - всё работает. Качай на www.qip.ru
[16:11:38] fuzzy: а чего в mysql не хватает?
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[16:12:07] ezhik.ezhik321 is now QIP 2012 - всё работает. Качай на www.qip.ru
[16:12:47] Tony is now away
[16:12:51] opka: levsha: select * from (select * from account order by rand()) as t group by site
[16:12:53] opka: сделал вот так
[16:15:02] bliznezz: а как оно по одной записи возвращает?
[16:16:30] levsha: это такое хитрое поведение mysql, позволяющее не задавать группировку или агрегат для всех полей, а только для некоторых
[16:16:35] opka: bliznezz: а мне не надо по одной
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[16:25:22] nmk: levsha: имхо твой запрос не будет работать
[16:25:23] Tony is now online
[16:26:56] levsha: nmk: я должен приводить какие-то аргументы на такое безаргументное заявление?
[16:27:00] fuzzy is now away
[16:27:13] nmk: вот так будет: select distinct on (site) * from таблица order by site, random()
[16:27:17] nmk: ну ты проверь просто ;)
[16:27:44] fuzzy: select distinct site, login, password from accounts order by rand()?
[16:28:08] fuzzy: а, не, вряд ли
[16:28:19] levsha: fuzzy: не, так выдаст все логины-пароли на сайты, а не по одному
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[17:25:12] Tony: кто работу ищет удаленку фуллтайм?
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[18:11:00] singularity: Tony: а куда ты Caufman`a дел?
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[18:14:52] Tony: singularity, я?
[18:15:07] singularity: Tony: он вроде писал тебе
[18:15:20] Tony: singularity, да он работу искал
[18:15:25] Tony: singularity, могу найти его если хочешь
[18:15:35] singularity: нет
[18:16:00] Tony: Анатолий это же он?
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[22:54:23] rem_ is now Yep, I'm here.
[22:55:37] rem_: привет всем
[22:55:58] rem_: что надо качать, чтоб сделать окно, отобразить на нём жопегрисунок, и стрелками управлять им?
[22:56:06] rem_: билы дополнительные нужны?
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[23:37:08] fuzzy: можно окно броузера, например
[23:37:12] fuzzy: тогда можно и без доп. либ
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