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[01:33:44] opka: скажите, насколько кошерно делать
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[01:33:47] opka: if true_statment:
return True
else:
some_other_code
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[01:34:29] opka: т.е. писать else в таком случае? Ведь если statment тру, то до елза дело не дойдет, если нет, то и без него последующий код будет выполнен
[01:34:53] opka: if true_statment:
return True

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[01:35:08] opka: fuzzy: как ты пишешь ?
[01:35:23] opka: с else или без ?
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[01:36:57] fuzzy: так меньше отступов
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[02:05:35] fuzzy: ты ошибся окном?
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[04:59:22] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[05:39:03] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[06:09:14] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[06:39:27] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[07:09:38] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[09:20:14] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[09:24:36] RaD: re all
[09:25:15] RaD: как на венде в питоне поискать вхождение в строчку?
[09:25:53] RaD: "'текст' in line" не прокатывает, правда текст набирался в utf-8
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[11:56:52] fuzzy: RaD: правильно раскодировать utf-8
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[11:57:33] RaD: это как? я все известные мне варианты попробовал, правда я с windows практически не сталкиваюсь
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[13:27:20] fuzzy: RaD: на входе данніе раскодировать из той кодировки, в которой они приходят - в unicode
[13:27:37] fuzzy: это - bytes_var.decode(encoding)
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[13:31:50] RaD: это первое, что я попробовал
[13:32:15] RaD: у меня скрипт в utf-8, строки приходят из приложения через subprocess
[13:32:52] RaD: скрипт оформлен правильно, т.е. строки автоматом становятся юникодными, а вот строку от приложения я пробовал декодировать из cp1251 и cp866, не помогло никак
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[14:27:00] fuzzy: определи, в какой кодировке твоё "приложение" отдаёт данные
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[18:00:39] remo: Помогите с примером:) http://python.su/forum/topic/25576/
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[18:39:22] fuzzy: remo: как всё плохо
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[18:39:46] remo: fuzzy: по поводу ?
[18:39:55] remo: пример из книги, не менее не более
[18:40:11] fuzzy: по поводу ссылки
[18:40:16] fuzzy: ты сколько пишешь на питоне?
[18:40:41] remo: fuzzy: в том-то и дело, что всё время я на нём не писал
[18:40:49] remo: а занимался проектом
[18:41:46] fuzzy: !trans AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'narrative'
[18:41:52] fuzzy: !enru AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'narrative'

[18:42:21] fuzzy: remo: можешь перевести?
[18:43:01] remo: fuzzy: :)
[18:43:24] fuzzy: улыбайся..
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[18:45:57] remo: fuzzy: мде
[18:46:05] fuzzy: увы
[18:46:47] remo: fuzzy: а к чему эта вся беседа-то ?
[18:47:01] remo: fuzzy: т.е, что ты мне хочешь этим сказать ?
[18:48:00] fuzzy: я этим хочу сказать, что если ты прочитаешь/переведёшь/осмыслишь сообщение об ошибке, то у тебя должны возникнуть тривиальные идеи о том, как решить твою проблему.
[18:48:17] remo: fuzzy: ну это пример как бы. Он изначально должен работат
[18:48:21] remo: *работать
[18:48:30] remo: а оно работает на питон3 и не работает на питон2
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[18:50:29] fuzzy: не может быть
[18:52:55] fuzzy: не очень верится
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[18:56:51] remo: fuzzy: ну значит вот такой вот пример в книге
[18:59:06] fuzzy: а что за книга?
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[19:03:02] fuzzy: remo: ты несёшь какую-то несуразицу, кстати
[19:03:09] fuzzy: код не работает ни на 2 ни на 3
[19:03:21] fuzzy: так что скорее ты его не правильно переписал
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[19:08:46] remo: fuzzy: ты не поверишь, я его скопипастил
[19:09:17] remo: narrative = "\n".join(wrapper.wrap(self['narrative'].strip()))
[19:09:27] remo: по идее: narrative = "\n".join(wrapper.wrap(self['narrative'].strip()))
[19:09:59] remo: блин, вот это книги)
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[19:10:58] remo: Саммерфилд - Программирование на Python 3.2009 всем советую. Такой квест прикольный
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[19:24:36] remo: fuzzy: и всё же, что это вообще за конструкция ? https://privatepaste.com/c7020f7890
[19:25:10] fuzzy: это строка у которой вызывается метод
[19:25:12] fuzzy: это есть в питоне 2
[19:25:15] fuzzy: и 3
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[19:32:49] fuzzy: ну вот
[19:32:52] fuzzy: как и следовало ожидать
[19:34:28] fuzzy: remo: где ты в книжке нашёл: a = IncidentCollection(report_id='00000001',\ ?
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[19:40:22] remo: fuzzy: а что, текст имеет значение ?
[19:41:07] remo: fuzzy: а что означает 0.aircraft_id ?
[19:41:14] remo: ноль что означает ?
[19:41:38] fuzzy: remo: нет, имеет значение не текст
[19:41:44] fuzzy: имеет значение код
[19:41:51] remo: fuzzy: https://privatepaste.com/b4dc40244e
[19:43:23] remo: print "math.pi=={0.pi} sys.maxunicode=={1.maxunicode}".format(math, sys)
[19:43:25] remo: ага
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[20:04:41] remo: fuzzy: если не веришь - полный текст примера https://privatepaste.com/61000fb3c3
[20:05:22] remo: вообще IncidentCollection не наследует атрибуты Incident, а всего лишь формирует словарь
[20:06:27] remo: так вот, в IncidentCollection можно получать доступ к содержимому колекции нужно использовать доступ по ключу self['narrative']
[20:06:56] remo: а чтобы получать доступ к атрибутам класса Incident, надо СНАЧАЛА БЛЯТЬ УНАСЛЕДОВАТЬ ИХ
[20:07:13] fuzzy: нет, не надо
[20:07:25] fuzzy: в полном тексте той строки, которую я написал нет
[20:07:52] remo: fuzzy: какой строки ?
[20:08:15] fuzzy: a = IncidentCollection(report_id='00000001',\
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[20:08:20] fuzzy: ну и дальше
[20:08:20] fuzzy: до )
[20:08:39] fuzzy: и соответственно в коде в http://python.su/forum/topic/25576/ проблема только в выражении "a = ..."
[20:08:50] fuzzy: но в чём-то ты прав
[20:08:58] fuzzy: "вообще IncidentCollection не наследует атрибуты Incident, а всего лишь формирует словарь"
[20:09:01] fuzzy: это да
[20:09:12] fuzzy: а это - нет: "так вот, в IncidentCollection можно получать доступ к содержимому колекции нужно использовать доступ по ключу self['narrative']"
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[20:12:00] remo: как это нет
[20:12:20] remo: а хотя, сек
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[20:14:08] remo: в методах IncidentCollection можно использовать лишь self['key']
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[20:24:21] remo: да, но если наследовать не dict, а конкретно Incident, то тогда работать надо не с IncidentCollection, а с Incident
[20:24:40] remo: # # простой пример наследования
# class A(object):
#def __init__(self, x=0, y=0):
# self.x = x
# self.y = y
#
# class B(A):
#def __init__(self, z, x=0, y=0):
# super(B, self).__init__(x, y)
# self.z = z
#
#
# p = A(28, 45)
# c = B(5, 28, 45)
# print p.x, p.y
# print c.x, c.y, c.z
# # Press ENTER or type command to continue
# # 28 45
# # 28 45 5
[20:25:07] remo: короче неработающие примеры в книге очень напрягают
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[21:56:36] opka: у меня есть код, например в нем много строк типа g.go(), logging.info()... И вот я хочу все g. (которые объекты) изменить на self.g (self.g.go(), self.g.response.url ...). Если я просто выделяю "g" то мне подсвечивает переменную эту верно, а когда хочу выделить их все, то мне выделяет все буквы g: logging тоже. Ка вот выделить именно переменную а не все буковки?
[21:56:47] opka: просто уже не первый раз сталкиваюсь., затрахало :))
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[21:59:33] opka: сам спросил сам ответил :)
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