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[01:30:42] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[14:39:24] microsoftff: кто джанго использует?
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[14:43:18] fuzzy: microsoftff: это соц. опрос?
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[14:46:13] microsoftff: fuzzy: я хочу вебом заняться
[14:46:20] microsoftff: хочу спросить стоит ли
[14:46:33] microsoftff: на джанго начинать или что-то другое посоветуете
[14:47:21] fuzzy: да
[14:47:22] fuzzy: стоит
[14:48:23] microsoftff: а что почитать, кроме офф доков
[14:50:02] remo: microsoftff: http://php.net/docs.php
[14:50:33] microsoftff: remo: пхп?
[14:50:54] microsoftff: нафига пхп
[14:51:24] fuzzy: microsoftff: питон знаешь уже?
[14:51:40] remo: microsoftff: ну ты же сказал, что что-то другое посоветовать)
[14:51:45] microsoftff: fuzzy: ну с питоном знаком , с пхп вообще нет
[14:51:57] Сволота: раньше webpy было нормальным вариантом для старта, а как сейчас не знаю
[14:51:58] microsoftff: ну джанго все таки фреймворк
[14:52:00] fuzzy: microsoftff: тогда на оф сайте джанги - туториал
[14:52:15] microsoftff: да там как - то мало
[14:52:35] fuzzy: microsoftff: сделал(а) туториал?
[14:52:48] microsoftff: fuzzy: да
[14:53:01] fuzzy: придумай себе задачу и запили
[14:53:12] fuzzy: потом найди кого-то опытного и попроси code review
[14:53:19] fuzzy: можно, например, тут
[14:53:19] Сволота: а вообще, фрейворки не нужны, надо использовать библиотеки
[14:53:27] fuzzy: Сволота: [bgcnjnf
[14:53:29] fuzzy: хипстота
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[14:55:53] microsoftff: вакансий
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[15:03:52] Сволота: почти вся эта работа сводится к поддержке старья
[15:04:42] microsoftff: я к слову qa сейчас, хочу уйти в разработку
[15:05:27] microsoftff: с областью не определился
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[15:06:54] remo: microsoftff: ява + моб аплеки или обжект с + яблофон =)
[15:07:28] remo: ява+андроид или обжект с+яблоко
[15:08:46] microsoftff: remo: а ты чем занимаешься
[15:08:58] remo: microsoftff: я вообще бездельник
[15:09:24] microsoftff: remo: бэкэнд можно наверно учить, он и там и там
[15:10:09] fuzzy: microsoftff: для мобильных или фронт-енд джаваскрипта бекенд не обязательно
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[15:12:29] microsoftff: скоро новогодние каникулы длинные
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[19:28:02] avrong: помогите http://python.su/forum/topic/25791/
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