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[02:21:16] fuzzy: singularity: на чём.. на джанге, ясно
[02:21:40] fuzzy: фалск, если хипстер. или какой-то простенький веб-сервис
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[04:03:00] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[04:33:10] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[05:41:24] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[15:01:16] singularity: fuzzy: а если брать не только питон?
[15:01:31] singularity: вроде как все з ror на node.js валят
[15:02:03] fuzzy: кто все?
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[15:02:07] fuzzy: хипстеры?
[15:02:13] singularity: ага)
[15:02:20] fuzzy: пусть валят
[15:02:32] singularity: Ну все же
[15:02:39] singularity: на чем не хипстери пишут?
[15:02:50] singularity: django как-то не очень(
[15:02:53] fuzzy: в заисимости от требований
[15:02:58] fuzzy: а чем джанго не очень?
[15:03:21] singularity: Cложно для меня
[15:03:31] singularity: Я тупой слишком для нее
[15:03:47] fuzzy: ну ты можешь взять фласк, например
[15:03:51] fuzzy: который тупой как пробка
[15:03:55] fuzzy: и наступать на грабли
[15:04:03] fuzzy: джанга просто эти грабли решает
[15:04:22] singularity: решает и вставляет свои грабли в других местах
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[15:05:05] singularity: Я хочу что-би у фласк бил немного более похож на django
[15:05:33] singularity: ну то есть больше блупритов для jinja2+sqlalchemy
[15:07:05] singularity: Я когда сам пилю на flask такое впечетления что оно сделано из говна и палок
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[15:07:48] singularity: ну то есть когда разние модули вместе не работают и надо писать обвязки
[15:08:22] fuzzy: ну так для этого джанга и есть
[15:08:30] fuzzy: может ты туториал по джанге не прошёл?
[15:09:48] singularity: Регулярно смотрю туда. Там кстати туториал дополнили настройкой админки
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[15:46:48] gigimon: fuzzy: и как ты их терпишь?
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[15:53:08] reverse2500: вчера скачал джанго и запустил по туториалу сервер, пока правда не все понятно но врубаюсь дума, там как раз есть то что надо, особенно масовая рассылка
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[16:22:21] reverse2500: а так что бы визуально глянуть ?
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[16:34:39] gigimon: а какая разнциа тебе визуально?
[16:34:42] gigimon: джанга не cms
[16:34:48] gigimon: можно сделать что угодно
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[18:21:07] reverse2500: какие есть варианты питон + веб ? Что бы стандартные скрипты не переделывать ?
[18:21:15] reverse2500: с Джанго долго разбиратся
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[18:27:32] reverse2500: да
[18:27:49] reverse2500: CGI но хоть что бы меньше было разбиратся
[18:27:59] reverse2500: а то этих реализаций полно
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[19:08:50] fuzzy: ты что-то не то хочешь..
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[21:20:49] singularity: > РНР застрял
> с Джанго долго разбиратся
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[21:41:09] remo: для класса есть __str__, __repr__, а для функции можно задать подобный метод ?
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[21:42:41] remo: можно конечно возвращать кортеж из функции, в котором будет кастомное имя функции, а более человеческий способ есть ?
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[21:45:29] slav0nic: а?)
[21:47:15] remo: slav0nic: в общем есть цикл, который берет все методы класса, сортирует их. Потом поочередно вызывает. И имена методов фигурируют в логах. А хотелось бы, чтобы можно было заменить имена функций на какие-то другие, скажем кириллические
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[21:47:55] remo: поэтому хотелось бы задать для каждой функции её кирилическое название
[21:48:17] remo: чтобы в цикле можно было ссылаться на это название
[21:48:40] slav0nic: какой-то адъ!
ну создай словарик и меняй
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[22:10:59] remo: slav0nic: в смысле создай словарик ?
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[23:00:14] slav0nic: remo, ну имя ф-ции: кириллицццаа
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[23:05:26] remo: slav0nic: да как-то некрасиво это
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[23:06:25] slav0nic: так это, гулять так гулять!)) от твоих архитектурных решений и так плохо пахнет)) так что кашу маслом не испортишь)
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[23:19:36] remo: slav0nic: в смысле плохие архитектурные решения ? Есть классы, внутри них методы. или их вызывать поочередно или с помощью этого нехитрого кода все поочередно вызываются
[23:20:27] remo: slav0nic: там 6 или 7 классов по 10-15 методов
[23:21:25] remo: slav0nic: расскажи, как правильно вызвать ~70-100 методов
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[23:22:49] singularity: remo: це джанга?
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[23:28:44] slav0nic: за 15 лет у меня не было надобности вызывать 100 методов)
[23:28:47] remo: singularity: нєт
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