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[11:51:17] king3: Добрый день. Ребята помогите разобраться с twisted. Работаю по udp с двумя клиентами. Нужно пинговать одного и обрабатываться чат с другим. Вопрос как мне реализовать пинг одного из них, в отдельном потоке или через сигналы? И вообще в twisted на сигналах в best practice что либо строится?
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[11:55:03] slav0nic: king3, это не особо вписывается в парадигмы асинхронного программирования%)
[11:55:57] slav0nic: для запуска задания с периодичностью смотри twisted.internet.task.LoopingCall
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[12:22:01] king3: slav0nic: Я чегото не понял чем этот лупкол отличается от threading с while и sleep:)
[12:22:28] slav0nic: тем же чем асихронный код отличается от тредов
[12:22:37] slav0nic: хочешь треды - не юзай твистед
[12:31:51] king3: slav0nic: но Deferred это тот же тред но с велосипедами типа слипа под капотом (сильно упрощенно)... Или я не прав?
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[12:34:01] king3: slav0nic: Системные eventloop'ы висят и переодически проверяют наличие результата. По мне так очень на треды походит.
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[12:35:28] king3: slav0nic: Ладно, не буду вас обременять. Надо читать больше... А такой метод как reactor.callInThread возможен в продакшене?
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[12:39:21] king3: slav0nic: Вы уж извините если туплю.
[12:40:21] slav0nic: не прав
[12:40:27] slav0nic: советую окунуться в основы
[12:40:52] slav0nic: тред в твисте стоит юзать лишь для запуска синхронного кода
[12:41:06] slav0nic: ну или если ты там какое-то прожорливое гавницо запустить хочешь и там без вариантов
[12:42:48] slav0nic: http://krondo.com/an-introduction-to-asynchronous-programming-and-twisted/
https://ep2013.europython.eu/media/conference/slides/asynchronous-programming-with-twisted.pdf
http://pyfunc.blogspot.com/search/label/Twisted

[12:42:52] slav0nic: постигай
[12:43:06] slav0nic: хотя я сам особо в дебри не залазил
[12:46:00] king3: slav0nic: Окей спасибо, буду читать.
[12:46:55] slav0nic: слайды вторые проклацай
[12:47:12] slav0nic: это вроде самые сливки по докам, хотя я давно не обновлял свою базу ссылок В)
[12:47:24] king3: slav0nic: Спасибо большое))
[12:47:39] slav0nic: ну и по поводу дефферед - лучше юзать инлайнколбеки
[12:47:52] slav0nic: модно, молодёжно, всё такое
[12:48:01] slav0nic: там 3 подхода есть, этот самый ок
[12:48:25] slav0nic: http://blog.mekk.waw.pl/archives/14-Twisted-inlineCallbacks-and-deferredGenerator.html
вот тут есть малёха
[12:48:43] slav0nic: и да, ща модно asyncio и py3.5
[12:49:15] slav0nic: хотя сомневаюсь что там уровень покрытия протоколов дошёл до твистедовского
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